Aluminum Stick Welding with Lincoln Electric AC-225?

What I basically want to know is, is it at all possible to weld aluminum
with this welder? I tried to weld a piece of thin guage steel the other
day, and at 40 amps I blew a huge hole in the piece of steel. So, my
concern is, what would this welder end up doing to aluminum? This is only
going to be a "once in a while" type thing, so I don't want to purchase a
ReadyWelder or anything like that. I just want to know if it is possible to
stick weld with this particular welder.
Reply to
Tom Martinello
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Yes it is quite possible to stick weld with that machine.
For thin guage steel, like 16 ga, you would need a 1/16" 6013 electrode, running around 30-40 amps.
Aluminum stick rod does work, but it is UUUUUGGGGGLLLLYYYY.
Definitely in the emergencies only category.
Reply to
Ernie Leimkuhler
I know I can stick weld with it, as it is a stick welder machine. :) Plus, I have been working with it for a few months.
Okay, I will need to keep this in mind. I don't know what I was using. Probably 1/8" or something. :)
Well, as I said, it was just a question. I don't currently have a need for it, but in the event I came across free aluminum welding rods or anything, I just want to know if it would be worth it to bother with stick welding aluminum.
Reply to
Tom Martinello
When was the last time you used alu rod?
I get to use it fairly often on odd repairs and I think that modern alu rod runs amazingly well, with a very nice appearance.
Is this something you have heard, or are you basing your comments on real experience?
JTMcC.
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JTMcC
2 weeks ago. 1/8" Alstate Smoothcote
Ah see there you go. The stuff we have at school is pretty old. The smoke plume off this stuff will curl your nostril hairs and make you wish didn't have a nose.
Well I tried it several times. I was able to get a strong weld, but the welds never looked very presentable, and penetration was variable.
I haven't seen anybody recommend a modern version, and everybody I have asked about it has agreed that it is ugly at best.
What brand have you used that worked well? I'll see if the local suppliers have some. I am always willing to learn something.
Reply to
Ernie Leimkuhler
I have stick welded aluminum with the Miller Thunderbolt. It worked pretty well.
If you are only making short welds or just a few welds you need to preheat the aluminum. If you start out cold it leaves a big blob. Once it warms up, it works fine. I used an OA torch for the preheat.
That one project was the only aluminum stick welding I have done.
Mike
Reply to
Mike
Pick one, my guess is there is one, maybe two manufacturers. They usually say for cast alu. We repair alu stuff as it's brought to us, usually it is cast but we get asked to patch tanks some times. The welds look very presentable. Nothing ugly about them, we sell them with pride. This is field expedient work, that is in the course of our regularly scheduled duties, someone will come up and say, "hey can you fix this?" We say "maybe." Grind it out, put some heat into it, and weld away. Nobody that works for my little outfit does anything that can be classed as "UUUUUUGGGGGGLLLLLLYYYYYY", or even "ugly", we don't alow it .
JTMcC.
Reply to
JTMcC
you using DC+ or AC ??
Reply to
dogalone
DC+
JTMcC.
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Reply to
JTMcC
In message , JTMcC writes
I was always under the impression that you needed DC Current to stick weld Aluminium.The other problem is that the flux will absorb moisture rapidly and once a packet is opened the rods need using quickly. Regards Gwyn
Reply to
Gwyn Phillips
My particular welder is AC only. Which is why I am asking. I know OTHER welders can weld aluminum, but it is MINE I am concerned about here. :) Not that I need or want to be welding it. I just want to know if the time ever comes that something aluminum needs to be welded, if I can do it myself or would be wasting my money purchasing aluminum electrodes.
Reply to
Tom Martinello
Rods need not be used up quickly if you have a insulated box with a light bulb for heat in it with rods. Humidity will not be present there.
Reply to
Mark
I did try this (aluminum rods) but the result was shitty, lots of porosity in the weld, like bagels.
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Reply to
Ignoramus24945
Were you using AC or DC ? I burned a little part of a stick way back when I was in the Navy . IIRC the bead looked like shit but that was because I was a shitty welder . I don't recall porosity in the weld . Of course that was 45 years ago and my memory ... well , you know how it is with us old geezers .
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Reply to
Terry Coombs
It is hard to remember, now, but I think that I used DC.
The result was clearly bad NOT because I was a bad weldor, which of course I was. It was clearly bad for some other reason as I could not have an ability to make welds look like bagel dough.
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Ignoramus13139

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