program Basic stamp in C/C++?

You don't need, nor would you want, to convert one high-level language
to another, which then internally compiles to some object code run under
and interpreted language runtime embedded on the BASIC Stamp. You merely
replace microcontrollers rather than go through all that trouble.

For Java, Parallax themselves makes a 24-pin Stamp, called the Javelin
Stamp. There are other Java-embedded products, some of which are
pin-compatible with the BASIC Stamp -- so you can use it directly on the
BOE board -- and some that aren't.

C++ is fairly unnecessary for a small microcontroller that only has 1-2K
of RAM in it to begin with; C is your better choice. Some people like
the PIC, but for C programming I personally believe the Atmel AVR is the
better choice. These are not pin-compatible with the BASIC Stamp, so you
need to devise a carrier if you plan to continue to use the BOE board.

-- Gordon

A simple PIC or AVR can be programmed on freely available C compilers.
And you don't need much in the way of extra components to get them
running.

I like the Muvium chips that run Java; actually they are a PIC with
a special bootloader and a Java bytecode -> PIC machine code compiler.
   (http://www.muvium.com/ ).

And if you like Forth, I'd go with the New Micros products
(http://www.newmicros.com/ ).
--
D. Jay Newman           ! Author of:
jay@sprucegrove.com     ! _Linux Robotics: Programming Smarter Robots_
http://enerd.ws/robots/  ! "Heros aren't born, they're cornered."

ok then I think I will first get the normal boe bot with Basic Stamp
and learn its language to learn basic electronics and stuff.
And could you tell me what chips I can insert in the slot are going to
work?

I'll probably also get the Mark III that looks pretty good and cheap.
What version would you recommend for my needs? OOPic or
preprogrammed-PIC?
http://www.junun.org/MarkIII/Info.jsp?item ' (OOPic)
http://www.junun.org/MarkIII/Info.jsp?item=1#  (PIC)

Thanks!

D. Jay Newman wrote:

If i were you i would avoid the basic stamp all together. I went with
the pic family and i love them, the avr's are another flavor, different
flavors but its still ice cream. The basic stamp is a pic with an
interpretor, which in my opinion serves no greater purpose than to
strip the real power of the pic from your hands and charge way too much
money in order to do so. In order to get started with pics youll have
to buy a programmer a compiler can be found for free. Then you can get
actual millions of instructions per seconds more program space more ram
and the peripheral features that make these microcontrollers wonderful
in the first place. Then each additional microcontroller will cost you
2 to 15 dollars each. Yes my friend i did say 2 dollars.

Hi Al,

Al wrote:

MicroMint sells a nifty little module called the MicroBolt, which is
basically an ARM7 (which is programmable in C and C++) and which is pin
compatible with the BASIC Stamp.
http://www.micromint.com/products/bolt.htm

--
Dave Hylands
Vancouver, BC, Canada
http://www.DaveHylands.com/

I never really payed too much attention to these 'user friendly'
microcontrollers, but when i found out what i was missing out on i
litterally just chucked my basic stamp in the garbage. If these items
give you access to the features of the avrs, pics, etc and are
reasonably priced by all means go along. However i cant understand the
concept of paying more to lose  your peripherals in order to gain a
language so high level that many things arent possible to do
Is it possible to do a timer bassed interrupt routine with a basic
stamp?
if it is maybe im underestimating them, regardless for 50 bucks it
better dance and sing too
what about the bolt thingy does it have an a/d converter
i know im being prejudiced but rightly so your missing out on things
thats why its user friendly