You guys are having so much fun speculating I almost hate to post something factual. Well, almost :)
From the July 2004 EC Minutes at
From the January 2005 EC Minutes at
You guys are having so much fun speculating I almost hate to post something factual. Well, almost :)
From the July 2004 EC Minutes at
From the January 2005 EC Minutes at
"The members would be contacted and asked if they would like to receive this product; only those who choose to would receive it."
Looks like THAT happened.
An isn't this a bit hazy? Did they allow it or not? The third party mailer, database or no, has our addresses, and knows what one of our main interests are. This is just one area the AMA should not have gone into. As far as I can tell, they never have before. Why did they do it now?
Ah Yes here comes the toy soldier DISCIPLE direct from AMA with all the words that all of us unwashed peons down here should bow to, and by all means NEVER question. (;-()<
Ya'll be gentle with JR. He is programed to parrot just what the DB/EC would have you believe. He displays little perception of his own when he is on one of these rolls. Reading JR is time for chips and salsa and a cold one or at least a bag of popcorn.
HC
Well... that's not how they did it. They also include the member response card, but there are only two options.... "I and sending you $10 and want to join your movie club" and "I am returning the DVD and do not want to be in your club"
There is no option for "I am keeping this free, unsolicited gift but do not want to join your club."
Oh... you can return the DVD at no cost. If you elect to keep the video, pay for it, and return the response card, you're on the hook for the postage.
Quite honestly, had I opened the attached envelope first, I'd have returned the package today. Of course, being a guy, I opened the box before opening the letter. This left the box a complete mess. I'm not going to put the effort into taping it back up since there's no packing tape on my desk. If I think of it next time I'm in the garage, I might bring a roll in and send it back then.
Let's hope this remains true, but of course, they HAVE accessed the AMA database. I get enough junk mail and spam already. Given that for the last 2 years I have only flown "outlaw" fields, I have a good mind to not renew my AMA membership when it comes up next year.
10 minutes is worth $10? 45 minutes is worth $17? That's as crazy as every show on DSC/TLC being available for $30.
Lessee.... at $19/video, at 8%, that's $1.52 per DVD. They're going to sell 33,000 DVDs a year, or nearly 2,800 every month?
Not to me, and if I get one piece of aviation-related junk mail, the AMA is going to hear about it. I already get some aviation junk mail, but not often... literally two or three times a year... from two different organizations, plus maybe once a year from AOPA.
--- Rich
Ok, so how many of the people who received this mailing formally opted into it? By the postings here, everyone who received it were not given an opportunity to do so and the rest of the AMA membership was not given the opportunity. Therefore, the names and addresse (at LEAST) were given to a third party without the express permission of the members.
I got the DVD. Didnt know anything about it till the first post here, checked my mailbox and found it there about a half hour later. Was never asked if I was interested other than in the literature included with the DVD. They sent it to me, its a decent walk to the mailbox, I am keeping it as a free gift. Might have missed it but I never could find what the "Regular Member Price" was for the things.
JR...
Horrace appears to be correct in this case...
YOU iniated a post that consisted ENTIRELY of Dave Brown's words...
Further down in the thread you comment, "sideshow, Please be more judicious in your use of quotes. There is nothing in the post that should be attributed to me. Thanks
JR "...... And you are correct. None of the words in the post were yours.
As Horrace pointed out, You merely "parrot" Dave Brown....
Useless rhetoric with no perception of your own .........
Bill
You certainly proved you don't have the attention span to read the entire thread (not post.. thread) that I pointed out.
future.>> >>> > > J_R wrote:>> > Ya'll be gentle with JR. He is programed to parrot just what the DB/EC>> > would have you believe. He displays little perception of his own when>> > he is on one of these rolls. Reading JR is time for chips and salsa and>> > a cold one or at least a bag of popcorn.>> >>> > HC>> JR...>> Horrace appears to be correct in this case...>>
YOU iniated a post that consisted ENTIRELY of Dave Brown's words...>> Further down in the thread you comment, "sideshow, Please be morejudicious> in your use of quotes. There is nothing in the post that should be> attributed to me. Thanks>> JR "...... And you are correct. None of the words in the post wereyours.>> As Horrace pointed out, You merely "parrot" Dave Brown....>>
Useless rhetoric with no perception of your own .........>> Bill>>>>>>>>
Bill, Are we to assume that since this is the opinion of an AMA Associate Vice President we should take some special action?
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