| Doug McLaren wrote:
| > Protected by common sense. I've found that by not running programs
| > from untrusted sources, I don't get computer viruses. Funny that? I
| > think the last time I had a problem with a virus on my computer was
| > 1991.
In that case, the virus was later named `Yaunch'. I think I had DOS
and Windows 3.x at the time, and it basically broke all the Windows
executables (DOS executables were infected, but continued to work.
But the virus couldn't infect Windows executables and let them keep
working.) Big pain in the ass. Got it from a BBS.
I learned my lesson then, and that was the last time I had a problem.
| > And no, I don't run anti-virus software, except at work when
| > it's forced on me -- and in that case the software causes me far more
| > problems than viruses ever did.
| You are one lucky person or are infected and don't know it.
It's neither luck nor ignorance. I just know what I'm doing far
better than most.
I also do most of my work on an OS that is very resistant to virii and
worms and other malware programs by design. (At least as long as I
don't run things as root, which I don't unless they need it.) Also, I
keep it up to date by applying patches and the like.
I do have Windows machines, but I just use them for games and the
occasional application that are only available on Windows. And they
get virii or worms. Occasionally some piece of spyware will
get slipped in there, especially when my wife uses them, but they're
usually easily removed with SpyBot or something similar.
| BTW, viruses can and do propagate from infected programs and not
| just email. CD's and floppies can and do contian viruses. As a
| matter of fact, the only way to get a boot sector virus is from an
| infected floppy or CD.
That's not true. Windows XP/2K may not allow user programs to write
to the boot sector under normal use, but there's little stopping a
program from setting up something to run at the next boot. I believe
that's how Turbo Tax 2003 got it's little bit of ill-advised copy
protection in there, for example.
Still, I haven't heard of a boot sector virus in many years. Not that
I've really worried about viruses in a while ...
| It's not as common now as it was 10 years ago or so but it can still
| happen. I know, I spend an inordinate amount of time removing them
| from clients computers. Spyware, adware, and webpage hijackers are
| another nasty reality of the modern web. If you are running naked,
| you are most likely infected and don't lnow it.
| MACs do have AV software and they can be cleaned without destroying the
| computer same as PC's.
Destroyed is way too strong of a word. Any computer can be fixed by
just formatting the disk and reinstalling. I occasionally have
relatives or friends ask me to fix their computers for them, and
usually they're riddled with junk, and so I back up their documents
and stuff, and install fresh when it gets bad.
| The process is a little different, but it can be done. I suspect
| that what nailed poor Stu was more in the line of spyware/adware as
| those will slow your computer to an unusable crawl.
I know there are viruses for the Mac, but have the spyware authors
created programs for the Mac yet?
| Those are obtained from unscrupulous web page designers and
... of course, they're installed either by insecure applications (IE
and Outlook are the biggest offenders) or by users who will run
anything. (Wow! Elf Bowling! Click on that! A little flag that
sits on the screen! I need that! Do I need a program to tell me the
temperature? Hell yes!)
Not that any of this has anything to do with R/C.
Went flying today. It was a very nice day -- about 7 mph winds, but
pretty hot (This is Texas, after all.) Flew my Dynaflite Butterfly, a
3 channel glider with a 100" wing span and a 0.20 engine.
It was a bit late for thermal flying, about 3-4pm, but I had no
trouble finding thermals and had it high enough that I even lost it
for a few scary seconds :)
Alas, I had to land and pack up, because I had forgotten my hat. I'd
put on sunscreen (I learned my lesson last time, burning badly), but
forgot my hat, and my sweat was getting in my eyes and I couldn't even
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