no, we call them in and wait for EOD to come and get rid of it. You
never leave UXO out there as the local nationals will dig it up (just
like these idiots did), some to sell to the bad guys and others to
sell to us.
Gunner, you are not that much older than I am. And yes, the kids in
the ranks feel uppity. However, we are producing a mindset in our
young (between high school and the sitcoms on TV) that makes them very
cruel. In most of the Islamic world life is already cruel, so cruel
that there is very little that we Americans can do that is worst.
When people use Opium to overcome hunger then beating them is not
going to have any effect.
What we old soldiers bring to the table is that we understand
kindness. Not the touchy feely stuff but rather kindness as a
weapon. You show kindness to most Muslims and it has an effect. Just
the opposite of what Americans would do. Americans are ungrateful but
if you kick their ass they roll over like beaten pups. With Muslims
you can beat them all day and not much effect but they are very
grateful for little acts of kindness.
I have had Muslims in many countries come to me, after they have
gotten to know me, and state that they would die for me. They are
that grateful for the little things that I have done for them. I wish
that I had the time to go into detail.
Our kids are taking too long to grow up. Their mommies baby them. We
can not afford a 30 year childhood. Europe is worst. We have to get
tougher. We need, individually, a sense of faith (something to hold
on to), we need to be physically in shape, we need mental toughness.
And all of that is lacking in the US and Europe. We would not be
talking about surviving on this group if we thought that our fellow
citizens were tough. We face that the facts that at least half our
citizens would surrender rather than face hardship.
Couple of problems. You were AF, not a ground pounder. Not the same
level of hardship. Even today AF and Navy only spend 6 months in
country compared to 15 months for the Army. And we use the AF and
Navy for support roles rather than direct contact (though there Navy
folks going on patrol these days).
Sorry but there are levels of service and risk out there. And your
health problems make it difficult for you to fight the battle that is
coming on US soil.
As for the unit, I would rather not say. But I was attached to 5
different units (including the 82nd) all at the same time. Weird,
never had that happen before. I could wear any of their patches at
anytime and would have been legal.
Personally, I would rather be back over there than here.
The Brits and the Canadians have done worst....
Lets look at the Brit and Cnadian tally Versus the Us tally for Korea,
Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia, Bosnia, Iran and Iraq, without mentioning the
millions killed by the two nukes on Japan.
Indeed. Fortunately..the remaining half is made up of the "rough men"
that Orwell spoke of.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men
stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
We have had the same problem through most of our history, with the
start of every war.
Fortunatly...when we suddenly find ourselves out on the sharp end, we
respond magnificently. Lets hope that continues, for when it ends, the
country is done.
Thank you for your long service to our country.
God Bless you.
Thought I recognized the patch.
Sigh...I tried to sign up at the start of Sanbox 2. Even hit up
Blackwater. Still have some much in demand skills, but also have some
long term physical issues as a result of the SEA ratscrew. Shrug
Sound of the drums , and all that.
You're right. The guys I served with in Alaska at thr uuS Army cold
weather trianing center BEGGED to go back to Vietnam. they all said
they wout rater be shot, than freeze to death.
I was to send 12 to 18 months in Vietnam, before my orers were
changed. About two months later the TV station I was to be assigned to
was overrunn and the staff killed, so shove it. i was ready and
willing, but my orders changed.
yeah, anyoine who doesn't come home in a boybag didn't serve. i know
the type. i see a lot of disabled veterans who had that hammered into
them, and are convinced that the VA won't help them.
I could outhoot my instuctor in basic, with a worn out M16 that had
no rifliling in the barrel. i hit over 80% of the targets, and he
didn't hit anything. You don't have to be able to stand to hit your
I guess that it's my fault for assuming someone 60 years old and
still in the service would know they US Army had lots of copters, and
that the Air Force rain the control towers. How silly of me. I will
admit you had me fooled, for a while.
[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
Gunner Asch reported Elvis on Mon, 03
Mar 2008 09:21:36 -0800 >
My dad wanted to go back for desert storm. He was only 68, it
wasn't like he was _old_.
I've already told you. Multiple times, in fact, including in this
thread, when and where I served. Gunner's right. You are a psychotic
loser. The fact that you've killed people and now regret it isn't anyone
in the United States fault. Either live with your demons, or go away.
If you keep your health there is no reason that you can not stay in
the fight. There are 70 year old insurgents running around at 7000
feet in Afghanistan who make our young soldiers look feeble.