|> And that includes NOT wanting
|> to move to the other side of the continent.
| That is *exactly*
my point. If you (second person plural) would
| rather whine than work, by all means stay where you are and whine.
| The work is there, and I've been interviewing all over where people
| have told me that there isn't any work. As I said, I'm not even
| considering MA or CA (or anywhere close) so *I*
am limiting my
| possibilities by 90%.
Again, youa re not getting the point. I can tell that because your responses
just don't match with what I am saying.
This is NOT about the lack of jobs local to where I am. I know that there
will be fewer such jobs here.
What this *IS*
about are the ****
from corporate executives who say
there is a lack of people (talented, educated, trained, and/or experienced)
in the USA when this is NOT TRUE AT ALL.
Basically I'm tired of the CORPORATIONS DOING THE WHINING!
If they _really_
wanted to get people to come work for them, they would do
what it takes. The fact is in so many cases they would rather WHINE than
hire. They _want_
to whine about it to Congress so they can get more and
more legislative concessions.
Sure, they do hire Americans a lot. They can't do that entirely on imported
or offshored labor. Some jobs have to be done in their locations, and for
that, the importation has its limits (which they are trying to remove so they
don't have to hire people like YOU to do the job you are qualified for, but
want a pay level appropriate for someone expecting to live their life in this
When the corporations say that there are not enough people, they have LIED!
If they were to say there are not enough people willing to work at substandard
pay levels, then that would be true. If they were to say that, then I could
not call them liars.
If they were to say there are not enough people willing to migrate to locations
where the corporations have their research labs, at the pay levels the offer,
then that would be true. If they were to say that, then I could not call them
But what they are saying is factually untrue. There ARE plenty of people in
the USA right now in engineering and programming fields. That might not be
true in the future if these corporations were to hire them. The number of
people in this category really has dropped, so the FUTURE is risky. But this
is a future of THEIR OWN MAKING because they have failed to provide the
for people to enter the engineering and programming fields (that being money for
the most part ... but cool jobs count a lot, too).
| I'm not exactly turning over stones to find these jobs (Monster and
| recently CareerBuilder, the latter is less useful, IMO). They're
| calling me. Several I'm not qualified for and several I don't want
| (primarily MA), but I'm almost back to three calls a day and perhaps
| three phone interviews a week (one trip every other week).
CareerBuilder is a joke. I don't ever look there anymore.
|> |> There ARE talented, trained, and experience people available right here in
|> |> the USA. The same goes for Europe. What companies need to do to get them
|> |> to come on board is to make them an acceptable offer for a decent job.
|> | There *IS* work. If you can't find it, perhaps the problem you. I
|> | don't seem to have problems scaring it up and none of it is
|> | substandard salaries. Most I've interviewed with recently don't do
|> | overtime either (one doesn't allow access on the weekends, under
|> | ordinary circumstances).
|> I'm not disputing this. But I am disputing THEIR claim that there is a lack
|> of people available. That just isn't so.
| There seems to be. Again, they aren't paying chickenfeed and most
| of the jobs I'm looking at come with relocation assistance. If there
| were an abundance of people they wouldn't need to pay these
| benefits. It perhaps isn't the best market ever, but it is *NOT*
| all bad.
Two things are true:
1. There are plenty of people.
2. There are plenty of jobs.
The issue is a disconnect between them. The people want the kinds of jobs
employers do not want to offer.
So if someone say "there are no jobs", it would be untrue.
But also, if someone say "there are no people", it, too, would be untrue.
Yet employers say this.
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