Utility to burn in new hard drive?

Wrong.

Wrong.

AFAIK -and I stand corrected on that- this was only on Maxtors (not WDC) and not a general feature of IDE drives. They switched off automatically after a number of power-ups.

WriteCheck (ATA Write Verify command) is/was a (PIO) command that

-in obvious ways- differed from a 'standard' Write. The ATA-ATAPI spec does not support Write Verify command anymore. The Maxtors did write check on the 'standard' write commands, they modified the behaviour of that command for a specific time period.

The left side of the curve is so steep these days that most infant mortality is likely to kill a drive before it is shipped.

I suppose "burn in" is a very bad description of what would be going on in these programs. I suspect they will not increase voltages a 5% or so, to see if it'll still work... Maybe they do that during some design or production stage... It is also unclear to me, what these test programs do to simulate a first week of use, that short period of testing. Up the speed rotation ? let the arm jabber a lot ? Probably they just let the thing read and write.... just what a disk is supposed to do for 5 years.

And then: if you would succeed in letting the disk work very very (unusually) hard, what would you really prove ?

If you would let me dig a 100 meter , 1 meter deep ditch in a day, I'd be on sick leave VERY rapidly. If you would give me a week, no problem.

of course it would be beneficial, to be able to ferret out the bad drives that made it through quality control, in the first day... before filling the thing up with software...

But then: installing the OS and software could be seen as a test too... just don't do anything serious the first week with it... But then, we want to USE our beautiful new drive at once, don't we ?

A never ending story...

Ok, Roddy: the floor is yours: fire up your cut-and-past macro.

Folkert just wants to say I am wrong, no matter what the reality is.

Arno

Just did.

Like cutting cost? QC is a cost factor.

Thanks Arnie. I'll bet you don't even realize the implication of what you just said.

Yes Roddli, that's what I said. If they exercised drives like that maniac said they wouldn't have to do that. The 'exerciser' would have taken care of that too.

And no, bad sectors showing up would also be viewed as early drive death.

Folkert Rienstra wrote

Pity it aint what was being discussed.

Depends on what the exerciser did.

You presumably meant would not.

By burning it in you will be using it :O) Just stick it on as a slave, copy some big files to it into a folder, then copy the folder repeatedly, delete the lot then do it again untill your paranoia subsides :O)

I think this is good advice ;-)

Arno

and as always you still do not realize what a nazi cockbite you are.

now f*ck off to the scsi group where you don't belong

HTH, HAND, and GFIA you useless f*ck on a stick

you speak from experience? why would one want to do this?

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:42:49 +0100, Joe S Gave us:

Put it in a 110 F oven and run a standard benchmarking utility on it for a decided upon period of time.

Not by any technical definition of "volatile".

Backups. Redundancy doesn't add much (still have the loose nut behind the keyboard).

Yes.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:59:52 -0400, kony Gave us:

How totally unnecessary.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:37:35 +0200, Osiris Gave us:

Bullshit. Hard drives have a proven record as the best long term storage devices in the world, and have the fastest access times for volumes their size as well. The best of nearly every world.

An IDE hard drive DOES self diagnose, and will AUTOMATICALLY map out bad sectors, and said changes will be transparent to the host OS as well as the user.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:51:04 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

IDE controllers, a circuit on the HD (not the MOBO interface) has already done this with some manufacturers even before SMART came out.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:59:25 -0700, "DaveW" Gave us:

THANK YOU... The first totally true comment made yet with the exception of Rod's posts.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:18:23 -0700, "Don Freeman" Gave us:

Google CRC and "Error correction", and STFU.

IDE drives already automatically map out bad sectors completely transparent to the user as well as the host OS.

Some of you guys seem to have been born yesterday, or learned what you "know" from someone that was. I sure hope that you didn't actually "learn" this crap from a course.