Utility to burn in new hard drive?

Phat Bytestard wrote

It aint necessarily that black and white, most obviously with read errors that show up after the sector has been written.

You too on the above.

Phat Bytestard wrote

There are no 'factory burn in labs' with mass market commodity drives.

You in spades.

Phat Bytestard wrote

Yep.

That too, but not relevant to the OP's question.

Or if you run thousands of drives. Unlikely that he does tho.

Phat Bytestard wrote

No obvious place to f*ck it unless you have a needle dick and stick it in the molex connector.

Yeah, and what he wrote doesn't conflict with that. "Showing up" typically means that the event is realized by the system or user, while this remapping is transparent to both, those bad sectors don't "show up".

Now you've shown your lack of reading comprehension twice. Care for a third time?

Not necessarily, having one company use an oven to elevate temps on *certain* parts doesn't being to make it a standard for burn-in on everything. The device merely needs be tested at the bounds of the operating spec if not beyond it.

I have got to sa that there is a lot of truth in that and I hear about the same sort of thing.

I am not disputing that. Modern drives often allow automatic execution of a short SMART self-test every few hours, to be set by software. But they cannot ''submit'' diagnostics to the computer. They can only store them and the computer has to actively ask in order to get any information.

Arno

don't think so...

1: they want to sell you a second drive. For that you must be a satisfied consumer. they get there by producing a drive that is (subjectively) good *enough*. 2: they want to ease you past the warranty date, by not letting you rocking the boat.

I go for 1: any for-profit organization is commited to maximizing longterm owner value, by selling goods or services. And a good measuring stick is consumer opinion which translates (not

1:1) in owner value.

I am the OP and I wish I could afford something like this 8 or 9 disk RAID! My system is at home and is used for home purposes. The data I store on my system is about 500GB of audio/video which I have created myself and which I do not want to lose.

I do my backups about once a week. In between backups I could get a failure.

To avoid the failure of one spindle could I use a 2 disk RAID. Presunably the protection this gives would be similar to backing up one of the two disks (on a continuous basis). Is this correct?

You did with that 'nonsense'

He wasnt using the word submit like that, just saying that diagnostics can be run. He was right.

That is what he said in different words.

'burning in' the drive isnt really going to help in that regard.

Like I said, it would make more sense to increase the backup frequency in the first couple of months instead.

No, that wont protect against user stupidity, deleting a file in error. Or the house burning down etc either. Or the system getting stolen.

It would help with single drive failure, but that isnt that likely with modern drives and that is what backup is for.

The only real advantage with RAID is that you do have another copy all the time and you can recover more quickly if a single drive fails. Not if the raid controller fails tho.

How are you doing your backups ?

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:03:55 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

Sorry, but they all undergo live testing in a hot lab.

Go look in a mirror. It seems to be your favorite word.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:09:20 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

That is the most stupid post you probably have ever made.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:11:52 -0400, kony Gave us:

A "burn-in test" is performed on complete products, not individual components thereof.

Component testing and qualification takes place at the component makers locale.

THAT is NOT a "burn-in" test.

On 29 Jul 2006 11:28:39 GMT, Arno Wagner Gave us:

Yes, but the computer user and OS does not have to do ANYTHING for the "repair" to take place.

Drives map out bad sectors. OSes do not need to intervene at all.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:51:40 +0100, Joe S Gave us:

Back up... a lot. to optical disc, off machine HDs or other device.

BTW, a bit striped drive also has a higher throughput.

Good practice.

That is a mirrored array.

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:01:25 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

Bullshit. The bit striped array I described carries with it a much higher throughput. Also, a controller failure is even less likely then a drive failure since it is not a mechanical device. Also, replacing it would bring the system back up with no loss of data, which is the goal. Cost is not a factor.