Long winded story which seemed interesting and puzzling while it was
I recently received a '96 Chrysler LHS shipped to me by auto transport.
It came with a copied key on an Axxess blank, which has only the number
17 on it. That key functioned very smoothly in ignition, trunk, and
doors. I wanted some spare keys. I took it to a local locksmith kiosk
which made numerous efforts to copy the 'original' copy onto a Curtis
Y155 blank, which also sez 'for Chrysler products'. These tries were
made by the assistant, since the locksmith himself was out on a call.
Those efforts produced a key which appeared to be identical to the
Axxess blank key, but the resultant key would not function in the trunk,
but did in the ignition and doors. The assistant made a number of
attempts and recuts and brushing and used alternative blanks out of
different boxes and was eventually successful in producing one key which
worked the trunk as well, but gave up trying to produce a second key and
wasting a number of blanks and repeated efforts.
The next day while at a local WalMart I tried to get another key made by
the staff with their 'automated' machine, which was attempted on a
WalMart Axxess blank. The automated WalMart machine works by putting
the original into one slot and the blank into the other, and the machine
does all of the 'work' for both edges of the double sided key.
Unfortunately, that result was visibly unacceptable, apparently because
of something wrong with part of the machine's cutting and its key
wouldn't work anywhere. That is, one side of one edge was incompletely
cut by the WalMart doublesided cutting tool. Attempts to turn the key
over to 'finish' the cut didn't produce a satisfactory result either.
So then I went to a different locksmith store which had 3 locksmith
employees present, presumably 2 or more of whom were 'real' or licensed
The first and I presume least experienced employee worked on the problem
with the same kind of result as the first kiosk locksmith above. Those
repeated efforts caused the most senior locksmith to become interested
in the dilemma, but no trunk working key was being produced.
When the third locksmith got involved, he wanted to know what kind of
car this was for, checked a book, and said the cut [or the key?] was
like that for the 91-93 Chryslers, and that 'we' should be using an Ilco
P1794 Y157 blank. That Ilco blank looks distinctly different from the
above mentioned blanks, as it has a significantly narrower center
groove, whereas the Axxess and Curtis blanks center grooves were quite
Cutting the Ilco blank off the Axxess 'original' immediately produced a
key which worked for all locks, including the trunk. The third
locksmith was puzzled over how the working Axxess blank had been made to
work by whoever had cut it. Of course or however, the first locksmith
assistant in the kiosk had also been able to /eventually/ get one Curtis
wide grooved blank to work as well.
I'm currently presuming the Ilco is the 'proper' blank and that the
'original' I was working with which worked just fine was *not* the
proper blank. I found the whole experience to be rather frustrating
for the locksmiths involved, considering how 'trivial' the job of
copying a key would have been assumed to be. I guess that in this case
someone in the past made a wrong decision on making a copy and had
gotten away with it, until it came time for me to get a copy of that
- posted 16 years ago