Looking for a "blank" MIWA key

Well Sally....... It looks like your in for a few bucks here. It seems, by your post here, that you don't seem to care about the plight of you neighbors in this building. They have to rely on the landlord to maintain a level of security and the changing of a lock when a key goes missing. That key was part of a system and is expensive to replace. This work may be done by a locksmith or the lock altered in a locksmithing shop. Why would any decent locksmith want to help you to cheat your landlord & neighbors and help you to cheat us out of our income??? I guess you will be more careful with your keys next time. Just hope your neighbors aren't reading this NG. M

Ottawa Canada

You can buy a key blank from any hardware store that does key cutting. Just tell them the blank you want and they will sell you all the blanks you can carry.

However you will need a key duplicating machine to copy a working front door key for your building onto your blanks. Rather than buying a blank, you might as well borrow a working key from a neighbor and take it to the local hardware store and get some copies made.

Note that if your front door has a restricted key blank, the corner hardware store will NOT make you a copy of the key from the neighbor without written permission from the landlord and in most cases, won't even have the correct blank or duplicating machine to copy it.

Good luck, you may have to deal with the evil landlord to get into your building unless you know a good, reliable, burglar who makes house calls.

Brian

Sally ( snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com) writes:

Bite the bullet and deal with your landlord.

Boy you must not have any friends.

1) the key was lost in a another country and there is no "risk" to my neighbors 2) I guess you cannot read well, so I will explain it to you. I am going to turn in the blank to the landlord and have him issue me a new one. How is that risky to my neighbors? 3) Oh I understand what you are doing. Just did a search on the web for your email and the word "idiot" and that explains it all.

Ottawa Canada

Maybe I am missing something, but how is turning in a black key to the landlord going to get you a working building front door key with less hassel than just telling the landlord you lost your key and need a new one?

I still stand by my previous comment that you can buy a key blank for your building front door at any well stocked hardware store if it is not a RESTRICTED key blank.

Brian

Sally ( snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com) writes: > Boy you must not have any friends.

Let's see............. I'm the idiot because you lost your key. Oh. and you're also on a public forum looking for ways to cheat your landlord and neighbors. My only hope is that someone in your building has read this and they are already discussing ways with the landlord at revoking your lease. You see this way.. if you end up in a card board box for a home..... there are no locks and keys for you to lose. I happen to be one of those locksmiths that don't encourage people to cheat and lie....... maybe by your standards that makes me an idiot also.....

Brian, It is amazing to me that you're willing to give advice like this to someone who has admitted losing an important key to a shared system. How is this landlord evil??? Dimwit here has admitted she lost this key and that the landlord is tough about lost keys. Good on him. He's doing exactly what he should do. Each lost keydimwit, probably has to pay for a rekey and a new release of keys. EXACTLY LIKE IT SHOULD BE. This is a locksmithing NG and I can not believe that you would offer suggestions that comprimise the one thing that maintains our profession.. SECURITY. People have to realise that a key is not worth $2-$3.... but has a value much greater. THis dimwit has said she lost it in a foreign country.......... sounds great but I don't believe it. If she was sure where she lost it then it probably wouldn't be lost... Was there a tag on the key identifying the building and herself?? Did someone she knows find it and thereby knows where she lives? Lots of qustions unanswered and you're giving her advice on how to cheat her landlord.........

Ottawa Canada

Ottawa Canada

True, I told Sally where to buy a key blank and how to get a neighbor['s key duplicated, but these are not secrets.

If the landlord is serious about security, the front door will have a restricted keyway lock and keep track of who has a key for it.

However I have yet to find a landlord that will change the front door lock just because a tenent lost a key. And I include buildings with a restricted keyway on the outside doors in this group.

If Sally thinks the landlord will hand her a nice new shiney front door key if she hands him a key blank, she is entitled to her opinion but if I was the landlord, I wouldn't do it.

Maybe in a real small building the landlord will rekey the front door if someone loses a key and that is admirable as it proves they are serious about maintaining good building security, but I guess I am leading a sheltered life, as I have never seen such a concerned landlord.

Brian "nice2cu" ( snipped-for-privacy@optusnet.com.au) writes: > Brian,

amazing how useful some people and how useless others can be

-Sal

Well the biggest problem Sally is your question... You are asking a group full of honest professionals for advice on how to pull off a dishonest deed...

Why seek out a "blank" key, as if you can find some place with blanks you could ask one of your neighbors to make a copy for you... Much less dishonest...

Why attempt to find a used one to give back to your landlord and tell him it doesn't work anymore... That is so dishonest I won't even get started with it... Your landlord might be a jerk, but I am betting he is not stupid, he will be able to recognize the key to his door...

You are worried about saving money... How about being honest and worrying about your security and that of your neighbors... Maybe there have been a few other keys lost and yours is the one that motivates your landlord to rekey the lock and pass out new keys...

Please do not insult the professionals of this group that are upset at your antics... We did not force you to come here...

Evan the Maintenance Man

No the biggest problem is that her entire idea is idiotic.

I'm afraid so. The odds of being able to use a blank key to fool your landlord into believing that the problem is a bad lock are negligable, and if it works it comes pretty close to theft.

I'd also point out that anyone who has actually lost the key to their apartment isn't going to post to the Internet and wait however many days for an answer, so this looks awfully like some other sort of theft attempt is being contemplated.

Basically, it fails every test of reasonableness.

Perhaps, or it's just another troll, or sock puppet of an existing one.