Lubricant for the job

"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OJr9e.3303$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

wd's not a lube. its more a cleaner...

g'day

WD stands for for 'water displacement' and was invented in Australia for the boat industry. Spay it on and you get immediate displacement of the water, you get lubrication and then after awhile, depending on the conditions, the formula dries and you have a surface covering that will protect a motor from the damages of salt corrosion. It's this last part that makes it quite un-suitable for locks. With machine fits and tolerances measured in the

The boat industry?

Australia?

See:

"In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry, in a small lab in San Diego, California.

It took them 40 attempts to get the water displacing formula worked out. But they must have been really good, because the original secret formula for WD-40-which stands for Water Displacement perfected on the 40th try-is still in use today." From:

Does the surface coating lubticate?

It's this last part that makes it quite

If I follow your logic, is it your position that after the WD40 that was sprayed into the lock drys out, it forms a film that takes up more space than it did when it was wet?

Try this, select a wafer tmmbler form your kit. Make sure you pickout a nice brite shiny one. Make a note of the room tempriture and carefully measure the tumbler. Now spray it with WD40. Set it aside and let it dry. The next day measure the tumbler again. Also make a note of the tempriture. (Temp should be real close to the same as when you measured it the first time.) Repeat this each day until you can measure the film thickness of

I suggest you will find it will take a lot longer than you think.

Better to use a silicone

Perhaps there more effictive lubricants than WD40 I will not deny that. But I would suggest that the risidual is the stuff that is doing the lubricating, not the stuff that has evaporated away. Any kind of spray lube is going to be diluted with a carrier solvent to allow it to bet in where it needs to be.

Does go a long way to help our

I also suggest that if a homeowner A were to spritz his lock with WD40 once a week, and homeowner B never did anything to there lock, all other things being equal homeowner B will suffer a lock failure long before homeowner A.

My reasoning is mechanisms that are lubricated suffer a lot less wear than mechanisms that do not get lubrication. While I do not claim that WD40 is the perfect lubrication choice, my experience shows me that it does have several benifits. First the high amount of solvent it contains will tend to flush out crud and when it dries, the remaining film is not sticky to attract other crud. I also suspect that additional applications disolve previous layers and this is why I have never found any case of gummy residue from WD40 indulgence.

I got a bank, has an EXPOSED west door with an AR latch bolt.. phone call- key wont go in lock.. it rained the 3 PREVIOUS days.. suggested they spray it with WD40 and try that.. yep..

they now spray once every 2 weeks in COLD winter. and so far they have not found anything better for the situation.

a better lube? TRI-FLOW.. has teflon in it instead of the WET graphite..

MY CHOICE THO.. FIRST is PB Blaster. and if its really bad.. brake cleaner. then once its clean, depends on INSIDE or OUTSIDE..

--Shiva--

wd came from the space program...

LOL

If what you say is true, you might want to inform them that their website has very misleading information posted on it...

Links to such information have been psoted to this NG by others, and it seems as if what YOU are saying is in error...

I recommend that you only use WD-40 and other such products in an area with adequate ventilation... I think the fumes have gone to your head...

Evan, ~~ formerly a maintenance man, now a college student...

from the wd-40 website (

"Fascinating Facts In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry, in a small lab in San Diego, California.

It took them 40 attempts to get the water displacing formula worked out. But they must have been really good, because the original secret formula for WD-40 - which stands for Water Displacement perfected on the 40th try

- is still in use today.

Convair, an aerospace contractor, first used WD-40 to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion. The product actually worked so well that several employees snuck some WD-40 cans out of the plant to use at home."

so there you go. it didn't come from the space program because president eisenhower didn't create the national space and aeronautics agency until

ooh... that's a bit harsh! :-)

on a lighter note, the yale padlock i mentioned in my first post here has been put on the back burner for a while... i think i bit off more than i could chew when i bought that bad boy!

i have some padlocks (cheap, unbranded) on my shed so i thought i'd have a go at one of those first.

i was so excited when i eventually picked it... my wife just thinks i'm mental!

why am i mentioning this, you may ask. the padlock is a bit rusty and i had actually picked it 3 times (the plug rotated at least an eight of a turn) before i realised that i had to pull the hasp.

the padlock works perfectly now because i lubricated it... with wd-40 :-)

Hey Hotshot,

Why don't you check things out. The WD40 site says in was developed for the Atlas missile, not NASA.

============================================ "Atlas Missile History"

The Atlas ballistic missile began with the US Army Air Corps request for proposal in October 1945, which led to development in the 1950's of the Atlas, Navaho, Snark, and Matador/Mace missiles. By January 10, 1946, Consolidated-Vultee's engineers, under the leadership of Belgian-born Karel Bossart, submitted their proposals for two 6,000-nautical mile missiles: one subsonic, winged, and jet powered; the other supersonic, ballistic, and rocket powered."

From:

I will also remind you of some lyrics that may be framilier to you if you are an American. ... the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air...

pot. kettle. black.

no it did not, read it again.

you lackwit.

reading that website i see that atlas missiles were developed in 1955 and the first atlas flight was in 1957. as wd-40 was invented in 1953, how did the inventors know that a rocket called atlas was going to be launched 4 years in the future and would have a rust/corrosion problem?

do you think i could get the inventors of wd-40 to choose my lottery numbers? i hope so... they invented a product for use on something that wouldn't have problems until 4 years in the future. sheesh.

"framilier"? have you been drinking?

lay off the marijuana, "hotshot".

OK here it is again:

"In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry, in a small lab in San Diego, California."...

"Convair, an aerospace contractor, first used WD-40 to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion. The product actually worked so well that several employees snuck some WD-40 cans out of the plant to use at home."

Convair, an aerospace contractor, first used WD-40 to protect the outer skin of the Atlas Missile from rust and corrosion.

That is from:

And again from:

============================================ "Atlas Missile History"

The Atlas ballistic missile began with the US Army Air Corps request for proposal in October 1945, which led to development in the 1950's of the Atlas, Navaho, Snark, and Matador/Mace missiles. By January 10, 1946, Consolidated-Vultee's engineers, under the leadership of Belgian-born Karel Bossart, submitted their proposals for two 6,000-nautical mile missiles: one subsonic, winged, and jet powered; the other supersonic, ballistic, and rocket powered."...

The outbreak of the Korean war and the beginning of the cold war loosened the federal purse strings. Convair received a new contract (MX-1593) in September 1951 to begin design of a ballistic missile incorporating the design features validated by the MX-774. In 1953 the now-Convair Division of General Dynamics presented a plan to the Air Force for an accelerated program.

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So here is the time line:

1953 Rocket Chemical Company invents WD40.

Some time after they invent it they sell some to Convair who is building Atlas missiles.

There is no conflict with NASA that came later.

You don't read so good. The contract to Convair was issued in September of

Mia culpa. I hang my head in shame I did not catch the typo.

For you here is the corrected text:

Rockets have been around for longer than NASA. NASA was founded to make sure our rockets stopped blowing up on the launch pad. In WWII the Germans launched lots of rockets at England.

I will also remind you of some lyrics that may be familiar to you if you are an American. ... the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air...

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Are you happy now? If not, you are invited to go pound sand up your ass. Conciliation has its limits.

i know... wd-40 was developed for the AEROnautics industry, not the ASTROnautics industry and did not come from "the space program".

which still isn't "the space program".

lol! good insult!

it does indeed. i apologise for my use of the word "lackwit".

So pray tell, when did I make such a claim?

you didn't, "'key" did. it seemed to me as if you were defending that claim... apologies if you weren't.

I wasn't defending "Key" but I think I will now.

Rocket Chemical Co. developed WD40 for the aerospace industry. Their first customer was Convair. Convair built both airplanes and rockets. The latter technically left the atmosphere and re-entered to hit their target.

Since this was part of the same effort that eventually gave us NASA, I suggest that "Key" using the term "space program" was not really off the mark to be jumping down his throat about, especially when his objection was to someone claiming WD40 was developed for the boat industry in Australia.

Just to correct a few misconceptions, YES, WD40 is an Aussie product, that's formula was sold to the USA many years ago. An old Aussie farmer discovered the formula by watching our native marsupial the 'Wombat', and how it was possible for such a large animal to burrow and slip and slide down beneath the earth so smoothly and at such a speed, yet always emerged from the dirt with it's fur so shiny and clean. After hanging around the mouths of countless Wombat burrows for many years he discovered that their POOP had magnificent lubricating properties upon being boiled up with kerosene in a '40' gallon drum. Hence the formula's name WD40, .. ( Wombat Droppings,... 40 Gallons ). Believe it or not. ! :-)

bwahahahaha! how old are you, rog?

no it didn't. it was invented for the aeroNAUTICS industry or are you going to contact the wd-40 company and tell them their website is incorrect because you know better?

and were known as ballistic missiles... the precursor to the space program.

eventually? you mean _before_ there was a "space program"? lol.

not really off the mark? do the words "straw" and "clutch" mean anything to you?

if i'd have said, "hey, hotshot. it wasn't the space program" then you could have accused me of jumping down his throat but i didn't because i'm not that arrogant, rog.

by the way, what are you studying, rog... semantics 101? rofl

Real close to 45

Here is the direct quote from WD40:

"In 1953, a fledgling company called Rocket Chemical Company and its staff of three set out to create a line of rust-prevention solvents and degreasers for use in the aerospace industry, in a small lab in San Diego, California."

They used the phrase "aerospace industry".

Seems to me your clutch is slipping..

Now who is calling the kettle black? NASA was created in 58, but it was just an extension of the effort already underway. After all the Atlas rocket eventually was used by NASA to launch Mercury, but before that and under the USAF it achieved orbit on Dec. 15, 1958.

NASA had been created October, 1 1958. they hadn't even got their stationary printed before the Air Force was in space.

I think it clear that you are the one squabbling over semantics to suggest that NASA was the start of the "space program".

Interesting.

When did OZ switch over to the metric system? Obviously this important discovery must have occurred before the switch over as it was a 40 gallon drum. Too bad those subversive French whiners tricked so many countries into their silly metric system, as this seems to have thwarted further slick discoveries from down under.