What should I expect to pay a locksmith to rekey 4 deadbolts? I'm
looking to get rid of the Kwikset deadbolts on my house and get
something not made like crap. Medeco seems to be the best. But is
there anything good for a little less dough?
you have 3 issues..
its ONLY as strong as the weakest link..
the below is MY observations IN MY AREA.. they may or may NOT
apply to your situation..
door..how cheap can I get and put on a $150,000 house..(you
would be surprised)
door frame.. they arent worth a crap..
installation?? lets not go there..
where is the NEAREST glass that is 'hidden from view'?
a Medeco gets you pick proof AND copy proof.. this may be an
overkill FOR YOUR NEEDS..
there are others available as well, that might be less $$$
My front door has a Titan, and it seems solid. Once glass is broken,
my Ademco glass break sensors will sound the alarm. I'm just look for
a little extra piece of mind in the side garage area and
garage-to-house doors where the builders skimped.
the garage door got an alarm sensor on it? the CAR door..
I would stick TItans on as well, BUT, reinforce the frames..
several methods come to mind for them, depending on the actual
build you got.
I can give you what I charge which may or may not differ from what you could
expect to pay in your geographic area.
Rekey cyl $12 - Double cyl deadbolt (keyed inside and out) counts as two
New Lori H/D dead bolt (all the average residence needs):
S/C brass $44
D/C brass $51
Drive-in (round-faced) bolt for metal doors +$3
26D (brushed aluminum) finish +$3
Install deadbolt (fresh installation - no existing holes) $35
Replace deadbolt (no re-drilling of any holes) $15
Replace deadbolt (existing holes but still have to break out the drill) $25
Deadbolts purchased from me keyed alike no charge.
Lori deadbolts can be keyed alike with almost any other existing locks so
you can have your existing knob locks keyed to match the new deadbolts.
They have (when installed properly) heavy duty strikes with a steel plate
attached to the frame with 3" long screws that go all the way into the sub
frame (if there is one). Then the normal brass strike place is mounted over
that. The door needs to be unlocked and open to remove the lock.
I'm so confident in these locks that when I install them on a *residence* I
guarantee them for as long as the person owns the house. (That's my
guarantee. Not the manufacturer's)
You (probably) don't need Medeco.
brian wrote in message:
First off, it seems like you wish your locks REPLACED
and not rekeyed... Major difference in price there...
Secondly, why you would spend money on Medeco for
residential construction baffles me when most breaking
and enterings to residential dwellings involve brute force
entries rather than someone picking the lock...
Doors used on houses "seem" solid, yet they can and will
break easily with the right size sledgehammer... In order
for your "investment" in Medeco locks to be worthwhile you
will have to reinforce the deadbolts as others here have
described, as well as replace your exsisting door hinges
with security type hinges that are more resistant against
brute force attacks...
As suggested by Bob DeWeese, Lori makes a deadbolt
that works quite well and can come in just about any keyway
you could imagine including Medeco (the lock uses a
mortise cylinder)... For a lot less money than a Medeco
deadbolt... You can slightly improve the security of a
standard cylinder by asking that your locksmith use
top driver pins that resist picking (spool pins, serrated
I am a bit concerned that you have some misgivings about
your alarm system... i.e. your wanting "better" locks...
Perhaps you should invest in an upgrade to the alarm
system rather than the locks on your doors... It is wonderful
that you have glass break sensors however, such sensors
are useless if someone doesn't smash the windows in
order to gain entry... Each opening in the perimeter of
your home must be individually alarmed... With a contact
and/or magnetic switch, relying on glass break sensors
won't help you if your home is violated by a smarter
thief... Interior motion sensors that also detect thermal
differences are a good thing to invest in as well...
~~formerly a maintenance man, now a college student...
My 2 cents worth is, alarm? If not then that could be money better spent.
But it does depend on your location.
A house is hard to secure totally.. I think I will have support here, as
strong as the weakest link as said. Window, Roof. Locks stop people
openning a door, Not gaining entry.
Yes, but if I buy 4 new deadbolts, I'll need to have them keyed all the
Basically, I had to replace the door knob on the door going out to my
garage this weekend because the mechanism broke and the door wouldn't
open. When I took the old knob off, I couldn't believe how shoddy it
was. It is a hallway type knob (no lock) with a separate deadbolt
above it. The inside mechanism was mostly plastic. Well, I happened
to find a clearance on a Baldwin knob and found it to be a big eye
opener. The Baldwin just reaks of quality. So I got to thinking that
my deadbolts are probably equally shoddy, and just got to thinking that
it made sense to upgrade.
Got a few.
Well, you have been given some good answers to your question, but you
haven't been given the logic behind or all of the potential answers.
Your choice of Medeco is a good one as is the Lori also suggested. I am
continually surprised though when someone is sent in a direction that
may not be as secure in all ways. For example, another school of
thought says that you should buy Medeco, ASSA, Primus, Multilock, etc.
for the key control offered as well as for the high security features.
Many people don't realize that when you use a valet to park your car you
are giving him your house keys and your address at the same time. It is
a simple matter to copy the key and copy the address info from the
registration or insurance papers in the glove box. With that done they
can burgle you at any time. With good physical security you can stop
the break and enter guy and with key control you can stop the more
You also don't really have to invest in a high security cylinder to get
key control as there are many options that can easily fit that Lori
deadbolt along with the ability of all of those high security brands.
There are a few IC models like Everest, Keymark and Peaks and non-IC
models from Peaks, Everest, and a new one from American Lock called
As for the alarm, they serve a valuable purpose in that they may deter a
burglar from attempting entry but they may also make one think that you
have something of value that might be worth the risk. The most
important thing to remember about an alarm though is that it really just
tells you that someone has tried or succeeded in gaining entry.
Burglars are very aware of the local response time in a given area and
if it is slow enough they are more than willing to do the entry if they
feel safe from capture.
Just a little more food for thought.
> What should I expect to pay a locksmith to rekey 4 deadbolts? I'm
> looking to get rid of the Kwikset deadbolts on my house and get
> something not made like crap. Medeco seems to be the best. But is
> there anything good for a little less dough?
< When I took the old knob off, I couldn't believe how shoddy it
Probably Kwikset. Believe it or not, those plastic latches hold up very
well when use in most residential situations, (for which they were
intended.) They've been redesigned twice since that version.
Baldwin makes a very nice ***looking**** lock, but IMVHO, their
construction... well... it just ain't worth the money. (Apologies to the
Baldwin shill lurker that posts here every now and then (but only about the
wonderfulness of Baldwin)
Personally, Id never sell one to one of my customers (unless they insisted).
I sell security. "Looks" is secondary.
I suppose comparing it to Kwikset (which - for the record I think is a good
lock for the money), would make the Baldwin hardware look good, but there
are better choices as far a durability.
I don't normally use valet parking; when I do they get only the car key
(and only the valet key at that, not that there's normally anything of
value in my trunk.)
The glove box lock, if you have one, is supposed to discourage snooping
for the address info. Not that anyone ever uses it, or that most glove
boxes are particularly secure, but this is in the "if you may it more
difficult, he may go pester the next guy instead" category.
Very true. High security and key control are independent features. High
security cylinders generally also offer good key control (why would they
not?), but if all you want is a key that can't easily be duped without
your permission you can get that less expensively.
I gotta agree.. LOOKS?? yep.. security and good construction?
there is better, and at the same time its better than some.
I installed one for a lady once-it was on sale- like almost half
off, and she liked the looks
want worse? IMO. Weiser and Weslock.. WAY too much plastic
parts..and lets NOT get into Arrow, which I have replaced a LOT
of.. does Arrow even MAKE a good lock set?
On residential foam filled metal doors do you have problems with snugging
the lori lock so that it doesnt move on the door later on. In the past year
or so I have had a few calls from customers to "re-tighten the lock "(in
their words). The locksmith that installed them is long gone so they called
me. Im not sure if the door skin shrank or just bent inward but I had to
tighten the cyls a turn. Both doors had drive in bolts too so I replaced
them with standard ones and I hope that stops any future movement.
Yep Kwikset. My last Kwikset for sure. 4 years of everday use and it
Well this was just a non-locking door knob. The door also has a
separate deadbolt. So I'm not sure the knob itself poses any security
Was your suggestion Lori? I couldn't find any online retailers for
Lori. Do they make "lifetime" finish knobs and locks?
I get $50 for the local house call. And $15 per deadbolt to take them apart
and change the tumblers. $20 per, if double cylinder deadbolts.
Now, if you want Medeco, I can't rekey Kwikset and turn them into Medeco.
We'd have to replace, not rekey.