Be careful with shotguns - What would you have done?

what's sbs?

is that slamming the butt into the ground?

side by side

That sounds about right

Side by side - Two barrels lined up horizontally. Contrast with the vertical barrel arrangement of an "o/u" (over/under) double-barrel shotgun.

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the doubles next to it threw me off. side by sides are already doubles.

There are in existence side by sides that are over and unders as well in a

side by side

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

So you're saying that after bouncing it for awhile, it didn't discharge. So then while you were then just sitting there, considering your next move, a round suddenly went off ?

Yikes.

Did the firing pin become dislodged and spring forward causeing this discharge, or did was it a slow burning primer that finally ignited the round ?

Pray tell, what kind of ammo was this ?

Was the shotgun a Russian "Spartan" ?

Ha. I found it necessary to "finish" a new Baikal with a file before using it.

Hand it to Dick Cheney, he might take out a fellow politician this time.

I don't think it was a slow primer. It had been about 30 minutes since he pulled the trigger.

While bouncing it on the ground, I was prepared for the discharge but not just sitting there.

Thinking about it more, I seem to recall there was a burr on the firing pin that would occasionally snag. It was an attractive gun but a piece of crap mechanically.

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My first thought would be to NEVER allow YOU to handle another gun.

Bouncing it on the ground!!!!!

Searcher

Let's see. He has a gun in an unsafe condition, which he is unable to put into a safe condition in any of the normal ways. He points it in a safe direction and applies force to the inner workings, along the axis of the stuck mechanism.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me. What specifically of this do you disagree with? If you're on about damage to the hardware, you need to put that in perspective.

How about digging a deep trench and burying it? If it goes off under ground, no problem. If it doesn't, by the time someone finds it--if ever--it will be too rusty to fire.

Actually..thats a very valid action. One just has to keep muzzle control..ie pointed in the proper safe direction.

It is a mechanical device with a trigger/sear unit and if it hung up, the weapon could not be safely opened and cleared. So best to get it to discharge before trying to open it.

The action of trying to open a "stuck" firearm can discharge it in some cases, when the barrel/bolt/action are unlocked. That is not a Good Thing to have happen.

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

Ive taken a dead blow hammer to the range when working on firearms with similar issues. Generally works pretty well, or a good solid plastic faced hammer and giving it a solid WACK on the bolt or action over the fireing mechanism.

Nearly every firearm can be repaired if the guts are spotty. Why destroy it? If your lathe has a hung gear in the QC box..do you take a torch to it?

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

"Gunner" (clip) Nearly every firearm can be repaired if the guts are spotty. Why destroy it? If your lathe has a hung gear in the QC box..do you take a torch to it? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gunner, I invite your attention to the following quotation from the original post:

"I don't recall what the problem was but it was obvious after looking at it. Unloaded, it hung several more times. No gunsmith would touch it. We took a torch to it."

Of course, at the time they did not know all this. But, they had already decided to "burn it at the stake." So saving and repairing it were not an available choice.

Also, a lathe with a stuck gear is not likely to be lethal.

No..it WAS an available choice. As you said..they had already decided to burn it at the stake.

Neither is an broken but unloaded until repaired shotgun

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,