Be careful with shotguns - What would you have done?

Why? When something is broken..ya fix it. Bash it until if fires, or opens. THen fix it.

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

OK. Gunner I'll go with you on this one, Just me personally, I have never had such a problem with a weapon before. I've had a few bad rounds and even some cook offs but never have I had a B/A stick shut, Not really sure how its possible either. I was looking at my DB Rem from 1908, and theres a good

300ths of play tween the chamber and hammer areas and even with loads in the chamber I can still break normally and by removing the forestock. I just can't see how it can jam shut, and I sure as hell have never "bounced" any of my guns on anything.

Searcher

Ever seen a rifle missing the bolt handle because someone used a hammer to try to open it? Remington 788s are well known for this.

There are a number of things that can cause a bolt gun to stick closed. From the striker falling at the wrong time, to a busted bolt mounted safety, to locking lug setback, to a blown case head.

It depends on which action type as to which is the most likely cause and at which time.

Shotguns, have disconnectors often tied to the firing pins/trigger group. If something goes awry..the gun will simply not unlock. Period. If the hammer group starts to fall..and gets hung somewhere along the line..the lock is engaged..and the action will not open.

Ever seen a poorly sized cartridge case jammed into a chamber to the point that the action will Almost close on it? See above reference to broken bolt handle, etc etc (even more scary on a self loader)

Depending on the type of action..there are a number of things that happen the moment you pull the trigger, releasing the sear is only one of them.

Handguns are the same way, with their own idosyncrisies. Try to get a S&W open if the ejector rod has backed out a couple turns..or even less.

Ive got a pretty little Remington Mod 14. 3030 Pump action rifle. The magazine tube is in the form of a very graceful spiral so the point of the bullet doesnt contact the primer of the round ahead of it. You can actually use sharp pointed bullets in it safely. Its currently stuck tighter than a 80 yr old virgin..chamber empty. I bought it that way for $50. Its on my RoundTuit list. The weapon has more parts in it than an a Italian sports car..and is just about as easy to work on. Seen the same thing with 95 Winchester shotguns. Busted grasshopper spring on the cartridge lifter tends to be only ONE of the most common problems.

Shrug..yea..while rare indeed..getting a firearm stuck shut, loaded or not is fact. Its scarey when its loaded, and the trigger has been pulled..or has it? Will the firearm discharge when you release the safety? Ive seen more than one Mauser some kitchen table butcher has tweaked..you can pull the trigger and hear the striker go CLICK..with the safety on. And it may or may not go Bang when you release the safety..but its sure as hell stuck shut until it does go bang.

Gunner

The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.

In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence, and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years . It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints, and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.

Theodore Dalrymple,

Not reliably. A shotgun shell is sealed well enough I'm not going to risk _my_ body parts on hoping the whatever penetrated well enough.

You could, in theory, soak the entire weapon in diesel fuel for a year, inside a tube and it may kill the powder and or primer.

On the other hand...shotgun shells are often sealed as they are often intended to be used in wet climates, like duck blinds.

Ive fired shotgun shells I have actually found underwater in a duck boat, that had been there for a month.

Gunner

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