There were three of them in the US, and one in Canada. We kept redefining the Northwest Territory in the US as we moved westward. The one Pyotr is referring to was the first, which included Ohio.
I mean, when Pittsburgh is the western frontier of civilization, what do you call Cincinnati?
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Has to be the "midwest". Of course, I'm from where you go east for Cowboys.
- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
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It all depends on your situation. I'm from that part of the country which considers Denver as "back East" some where. 'Over near Chicago, I think.' I'm reading Niall Ferguson's "The Ascent of Money" and he has a chapter on "Chiamerica" - how China and the US for a long time had a symbiotic economic relationship - and everybody was getting rich (at least, locally). But at one point he writes "For a time it seemed like a marriage made in heaven. The East Chimericans did the saving, the West Chimericans did the spending." Say what? The Americans did the spending .. oh, he's got that east coast/Europe "Atlantic Centric" perspective, where the US is "west" and the China is "east". But here on the US Left coast, umm ... China is "west", and the "Americans" are 'east'.
tschus pyotr
- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!
Actually, it was never the "frontier of civilization". The Original Americans were civilized for hundreds of years before the white Europeans brought them measles, smallpox, dysentery, plague, cholera, alcohol, etc., and steamrollered over the "treaties," raping their women and slaughtering men, women, and children.
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