Cross reference tire and wheel pattern?


I picked up a "Wells Cargo" type trailer a little while back, didnt
have a spare tire
Contacted the manufacture..they say its a 14" 5x 4 1/2
Anyone know what that lug pattern fits..IE Ford/Chevy etc etc?
I need to get a spare tire and wheel at the wrecking yard, but dont
know what will fit.
Thanks
Gunner
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or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
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results." - John Tucci,
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Gunner Asch
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Go look on the rims you have for the stamped-in markings, the rim profile tells you what it interchanges with. It'll be something like 14X5JJ and there will be a load rating right there too.
Get that info, and the tire size info off the tongue data plate (the rim profile might be there too!) and the wrecking yard monkeys can find you another rim with a matching profile and offset, and a matching or higher load rating.
On a trailer you usually want a rear-drive car profile, because the offset is negative - centered. Front-drive cars tend to have positive offset with the hubs pushed toward the outside of the tire - put positive offset rims on a trailer and the tire sits too far in, and starts rubbing on the fenders, frame, spring hangers...
For tires, if the one that's on the rim is "Past it's Sell By Date" and showing age checking or full on rot, go get a Special Trailer tire for it - Grand American Tire has been running full-page ads in the Daily News, and the prices look real good. You need a ST bias-ply tire to handle right.
Then again, if you look around online you can usually find the ST tire and a white spoke rim for $10 more than just the tire by itself. And new bare rims for $20 - $40, almost not worth messing with used.
(By the way, News Flash - Northern Tool's website sucks rocks for finding a certain tire or rim, sort by price doesn't help much.)
Mount the spare on the outside - tongue, side, or underneath. Murphy's Law says you'll only get a flat when the spare is buried inside under a ton of loose crap, and it'll take you an extra hour to dig for it - and then you have to put everything back.
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Bruce L. Bergman
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A better place is to mount the spare on the inside of a swinging side door. That way it's protected from the sun and thieves, but won't get buried either.
Reply to
Pete C.
No sidedoor. Its only 5x8
Id planned on putting a carrier on the tongue.
Gunner
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci,
Reply to
Gunner Asch
Swinging back door, or ramp?
Reply to
Pete C.
Welded on?
Mark Rand(running) RTFM
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Mark Rand
Swinging back door, not particuarly thick, a pair of decent hinges and closure. Id be concerned about pulling any reasonable fastening system out of the door because of tire weight/vibration, though it is an idea. I dont know what the door core is made of.
Tongue is the obvious place, frame is well made.
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci,
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Gunner Asch
Just to be sure it stays on this time, would you like me to come over and weld it? You and spare tire mounts... ;-P
Grinning, ducking, and heading off to do some work. And you know better than to drink while reading Usenet, so "Not Responsible for Damaged Keyboards and Monitors." Turn your head before you spew.
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Bruce L. Bergman
You can weld up a simple mount support inside that attaches at the hinge connections with longer bolts and nylocks. That way all the load is applied directly metal to metal to the hinges and not to the door itself. Think a simple right triangle of square tube stock. With it mounted internal, it won't go anywhere even if a weld fails (ducking).
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Pete C.
Late 80's - early 90's Ford Ranger, for one (they changed to 15's sometime in the late 90's or early 00's, and to a metric designation which oddly enough measures the same). The backspacing may or may not work, and you'll need to double check the pilot diameter, but at least for the stud spacing itself you should be good to go. (Come on, you own rangers, and you didn't think to hold one up and see? :)
--Glenn Lyford
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glyford
True enough. Reflexive cringe in your direction.
Gunner "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci,
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Gunner Asch
sigh.....
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci,
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Gunner Asch
Way cool..Ive Ranger wheels and tires up the ying yang. However they are not in the same place as the trailer...and the current ranger is 15".
The Black Beauty is 14", and Im sure Ive got wheels to fit it. (94 Mazda B3000, 440,000 miles, awaiting a new engine.
Gunner
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci,
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Gunner Asch
On my open trailer, I can get the spare to slip over the tongue jack handle and down the body to rest on he tounge triangle..
Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
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Wes
My tire handbook shows that all Mazda pickups from 1996 to 2005 have a 5 on 114.3mm (4.5") pattern. The J or JJ or whatever only refers to the rim profile; not a concern unless it is going over disc brake calipers. You will need to check the center hole.
Early Ford and Chryslers had 5 on 4.5 also.
--Andy Asberry-- ------Texas-----
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Andy Asberry
Likewise Chevy Lumina APV (1990) Gerry :-)} London, Canada
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Gerald Miller

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