FS Tree Journeyman 300

Tree CNC Mill, Journeyman 300
Located in Palmdale, California. $500. Runs but may have a bad servo.
Email me for info.
Gunner
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Vertical mill ? Can it be run manual? I tryed email , it bounced. 2nd long email that never got there.
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I've sent gunner a few emails and I don't think they've got there. Used to be I got a receipt when read from him, but the last few have received nothing. I also asked about this mill.
Oliver

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 05:00:05 GMT, "V8TR4"

I occasionally take in strays..and here in LA, I take in the occasional stray recovering drunk or druggie. When I arrived at my place here Tuesday..I discovered my computer system had grown legs. Asking around, I was given a pretty good description of whom walk off with it, and after a bit of discussion, involving their very own piece of desert, a backhoe and just how deeply a hungry coyote could dig..I got it back late this evening. Most of it anyways. Ive been posting and reading on my laptop, which is NOT setup to retrieve my emails etc etc. So my mailbox filled up with crap..Imstill getting 3-400 of the Report/Bounced/Bug Report/MS Update emails every day, and Ive been avoiding my email in disgust.
Im also sitting here with a broken down truck. Slave clutch cylinder went poof, I replaced it, the master cylinder (twice) and the bastard still will not pump up enough to release the clutch. Its a Mazda/Ranger, and at 300am this morning, Id put the transmission back in, and it still wouldnt active the slave cylinder. A transmission specialist said he would be by after work...6 hours ago..and still no show. Sigh.
Gunner Venting

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:27:46 GMT, Sunworshiper

Email box is still filling up with garbage, sorry.
Yup, its a vertical mill and it does indeed have the handwheels on both axis, plus the knee. Id think it could indeed be run manually.
Contact: George Brougner     661-942-4499 Address:    233 East Ave H-8     Lancaster, Ca. 9353...
Its very remeniscent of a BP BOSS mill. rigid head IIRC.
You are NOT going to get this one in the back of your pickup <G>. Its a long long walk back to Sin City if you try <G>
Gunner
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Heavy mill for it's size (my guess, as I have the journeyman 325). Tree has manuals and such in stock. The manual they sent me had all electrical diagrams also so it made chasing down problems easier. I don't know what control is on the thing but mine has a dynapath delta 10. There is a company called "parts and smarts" , contact name Julius that deals with some of these old controls...this guy was REALLY helpful in chasing down a board problem..stayed on the phone with me for an hour+ while we tested voltages and such. It ended up to be a board problem which was a bit spendy to fix (about $ 500). Julius also sells the programming manual's for the delta 10 controls which is another help. I also had to replace the monitor which has a weird scan rate..new one of those was about $ 500 too. The point here is that it may be cheaper to strip the control and replace rather than repair.
Tree seems to have a lot of interlocks (on the 325) that monitor like a fancier machine. These include door interlocks, air pressure monitor, etc. Wiring all these in to a replacement control might be a pain. The alternative is to ignore these signals and live with it.
Anyway, mine is a pretty stout machine for a knee mill style and does a great job. The only negative is the old control which I would love to replace one of these days.
$ 500 seems like a great price. If I was local, I would snap it up.
Koz
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body> Heavy mill for it's size (my guess, as I have the journeyman 325). &nbsp;Tree has manuals and such in stock. &nbsp;The manual they sent me had all electrical diagrams also so it made chasing down problems easier. &nbsp;I don't know what control is on the thing but mine has a dynapath delta 10. &nbsp;There is a company called "parts and smarts" , contact name Julius that deals with some of these old controls...this guy was REALLY helpful in chasing down a board problem..stayed on the phone with me for an hour+ while we tested voltages and such. &nbsp;It ended up to be a board problem which was a bit spendy to fix (about $ 500). &nbsp;Julius also sells the programming manual's for the delta 10 controls which is another help. &nbsp;I also had to replace the monitor which has a weird scan rate..new one of those was about $ 500 too. &nbsp;The point here is that it may be cheaper to strip the control and replace rather than repair.<br> <br> Tree seems to have a lot of interlocks (on the 325) that monitor like a fancier machine. &nbsp;These include door interlocks, air pressure monitor, etc. &nbsp;Wiring all these in to a replacement control might be a pain. &nbsp;The alternative is to ignore these signals and live with it.<br> <br> Anyway, mine is a pretty stout machine for a knee mill style and does a great job. &nbsp;The only negative is the old control which I would love to replace one of these days.<br> <br> $ 500 seems like a great price. &nbsp;If I was local, I would snap it up.<br> <br> Koz<br> <br> Gunner wrote:<br> <blockquote type="cite" cite=" snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com"> <pre wrap="">On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:27:46 GMT, Sunworshiper <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto: snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net">&lt; snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net&gt;</a> wrote:
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 09:25:33 GMT, Gunner Asch <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto: snipped-for-privacy@lightspeed.net">&lt; snipped-for-privacy@lightspeed.net&gt;</a> wrote:
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Tree CNC Mill, Journeyman 300
Located in Palmdale, California. $500. Runs but may have a bad servo.
Email me for info.
Gunner </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Vertical mill ? Can it be run manual? I tryed email , it bounced. 2nd long email that never got there. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> Email box is still filling up with garbage, sorry.
Yup, its a vertical mill and it does indeed have the handwheels on both axis, plus the knee. Id think it could indeed be run manually.
Contact: George Brougner     661-942-4499 Address:    233 East Ave H-8     Lancaster, Ca. 9353...
Its very remeniscent of a BP BOSS mill. rigid head IIRC.
You are NOT going to get this one in the back of your pickup &lt;G&gt;. Its a long long walk back to Sin City if you try &lt;G&gt;
Gunner
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I saw one here in Vegas and liked it , nope my truck would be out. I'd have to fly or rent a truck and then rent a trailor. I need a vertical mill. Right now I'm swamped with work to get out of town right soon.
Your not alone , Gunner. I've been having problems right and left. As soon as I relax the dog has it's rope wrapped around my 5 yr. old's neck and no time for a drive into no where for target practice or 3 hours trying to find the next job and even the customer can't give dirrections to their own house ! I could go on and on , the stars must not be right or something. No truck problems except the other morning at 4 , I found out that I left the AC toggle switch on all night, and had to rob the Caddy and charge that battery to get away from home.
Good thing you've got locks for your guns , better lock your tools ...
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:11:05 GMT, Sunworshiper

I may have mentioned, that Tuesday night, I stepped on the clutch..it hesitated for a moment..then went right to the floor. 94 Mazda B3000 pickup, rebadged Ford Ranger.
I managed to start it in gear, and drive it to the AutoZone parts place. No pressure on the (internal clutch slave) so obviously its the master. Bought one. $71. Replaced it in the parking lot. During this excercise, the store closed at 9pm. Finished install, same dead peddle. Called AAA for the first time in my life, and we load the truck up, and take it to my RV in Ontario. Next morning, I drop the tranny, and sure as shit..the slave cylinder (designed by some asshole best consigned to the deepest regions of hell), which wraps around the pilot shaft, is a melted mass. I bum a ride back to AutoZone, and $85 dollars later, have a new slave. 6 hours later..at 3am, I have the tranny back in. Bleed, and still no pressure..dead peddle. Shit. Ok..at the crack of dawn..never daunted..I bum another ride, swap the master cylinder for a new one. Install. Still dead peddle.
I proceed to call every transmission and clutch place in So. Cal for a hint. Everyone says..its a bitch to bleed, bring it in, and we will only charge you $x00.00 to do it. Not in the card$. Contact a transmission guy, through a friend, whom says he will be over for $40. Ok...8 hours later..still no guy. This morning, after having rolled in brake fluid soaked asphalt and concrete for 2 days..Im afraid Im going to have to drop the tranny again. Ive already missed two days work, and a machinery moving job that was worth $250 cash. I call a place in Bakersfield, long distance..owned by a couple old timers as a last resort. The Okie who answers the phone, listens to the story, and chuckles. Says: lay a rag on the floorboard, remove the snap ring holding the piston into the master cylinder, pull the piston out a smidge, until the fluid starts to run out on the floor, put it back in, replace the snap ring, and try the peddle. Have a nice day.
Ok..do this. Takes 5 minutes. Works like a freaking champ. Id called 15 shops, including AAMCO, talked to about 18 different people, and nobody knows enough to do this. Vacuum bleeders? Reverse bleeding? Back pressure filling? Right. Either there a a bunch of greedy bastards, or they are ignorant as hell, or this slow talking, probably maybe a highschool diploma, Okieboy is a freaking rocket scientist as he knew more than all the Big City Professional Wrenches in Southern Freaking California.
Oh..I was out that Tuesday night, looking for the lady whom stole my computer from my RV sometime in the last week or two. It showed up last night, after a phone discussion with her, involving a backhoe, and just how deep something needs to be buried before the coyotes cant dig her up. Missing the modem, and most of my loose CDs, but its back. Ive been a bit..stressed for the last several days, oddly enough. Torn rotator cuff, pulling and replacing a tranny alone, spending money right and left I needed for other things like rent..laying on asphalt and concrete in brake fluid. Did I mention I get contact dermatitis from brake fluid? Its even more fun when it mingles with the gravel stuck in my hide.. and its 100F in Southern California the last two days....with a nice blanket of white ash covering everything this morning. My RV is about 4 miles from the Rancho Cucamonga fire and down wind...
Other than that..Its been an interesting week, and am looking forwards to the show this weekend in Visalia. If you see a big dumb looking, gimpy, stiff legged, slow moving, tender and puffy cowboy..its probably me.
Gunner
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I've wanted to keep a diary , but afraid it would get in the wrong hands or take way to much time to get a clear picture. Maybe short entries 4 times a day. I call those kind of troubles "putting out fires". Somedays and weeks can be exausting mentally and phyically and never get other peoples' jobs done for money.
Now that you mention it, I've had to do that to my master clutch cylinder. Sorry I didn't recall it to help you. Mine was leaking on the carpet , but worked. I replaced it and could not blead it right or figure out why it wouldn't work. I asked all around and toyed with it forever till I asked a guy I know that knows about everything from working on simi's. That's exactly what he told me to do and I had no problem with it cause it ruined the carpet already and sure enough . BTW, my slave is on the outside of the bell housing , but it takes two people to conferm what is going on. I always seem to be solo , I even have to set nails to snap chalk lines. It was about 10 yrs. ago that I had that clutch probem , no wonder why I couldn't figure it out after reading your fist post , but was trying to dig up brain cells cause something rang a bell and couldn't recall.
I don't react to hydraulic fluid , but I can feel the numbness and "tastes" it like it seeps through your skin.
I had to give a good paying job away today cause I just can't do them all. That guy waited a week for me to tell him yes or no. My major Co. called me and I asked them to give the job away and they said no like everyone else and they will wait for me. I can't work 22 straight days. I know you could do it NP , but I start loosing it. I was to the point of stealing sand from house construction cause I didn't have enough time to get my own sand. I could do that all the time , but just don't like it . I even asked for sand at a job site in Lake Elsenro CA. for a pool I did there cause there was no way to carry the weight that far.
I'll try to call the guy with the Tree this week if I can see the end of this tunnel , if its gone its gone. Is it close to your LA place?
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