You guys are a bunch of suckers- all we need to do is post some message about jobs going overseas and you all stop working and spend all your time writing about how unfair it all is- meanwhile my guys are hard at it building more computers so more of you can get on this board and do less work.
Yeah, but you poor sods have to come to Armonk to get managers for your computer companies!!
Jim
I built my own computer TROLL. Don't need nit wits like you building mine.
It's to late to work within the system and to early to shot the bastards. - Claire Wolf
Pretty soon your guys will be working for wallmart and my stock divadens will go up and i won't have to work. Your guys will be working for us and i can spend all day long posting how great china is, now go back to work i need the money.
Best Regards Tom.
Your guys in Corolado?
Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
MaoTseTung
Not exactly Jim, They are moving their management here.
Actually they're hiring some of the big blue guys, that's my understanding, in addition to bringing their own folks with for training.
Jim
My, aren't we clever!
Hey, fool------our discussions are a sign it's winter----that's how we pass our time when we can't go outside and enjoy--we pick a stupid subject and beat the hell out of it. Everyone needs a hobby-----this one is ours.
Harold
I *tried* installing a fairing on a motorbike last night, out in the garage.
At five degrees the wire insulation was so brittle I couldn't bend the wires to get them through the grommets. I was able to work one hand at a time, with the other one in a glove, for about ten minutes until I was worried that I'd wind up with frostbite.
That hobby's gonna have to wait till it warms up!
Jim (who's idea of nirvana is a fully heated shop to work on bikes...)
I don't get it. We are doing exactly what you and Saudi Arabia are telling us to do and yet we get criticism.
:)
--Winston
Pex tubing is way cheap now. Even the fittings are available on ebay. Radiant heat is the way I'm going to go. Too late for this winter, but before the next!
At least somewhere in the USA. Posted on an earthlink system, and the "NNTP-Posting-Host: " (4.225.216.39) shows up as Level-#, which is at least based in Bloomfield Colorado, though it has pretty wide coverage in the US.
Certainly appears to be a troll of some sort.
Let's see who else has been posting from within the same class-C subnet during the period covered by my current news spool:
O.K.
1) All from the same class-C IP block, which means that all from the same geographic area, and the IP address changes with each fresh connection.2) Three different (presumably forged) usernames and claimeed ISPs.
3) All from the same version of Outlook Express, and thus possibly from the same machine.So -- the odds are that all are from the same individual.
4) All but one are quite contentious subjects. The one seems to have some advice, though not particularly good advice. And that was back on 1 December 2004.I think that we have someone here who prefers to stir up controversy instead of to discuss metalworking subjects directly.
And I think that it is time to add this particular thread to my killfile.
Enjoy, DoN.
I installed hydronic heating in our shop---including the RV storage side, which I can control temperature wise independently of the shop. Best damned move I've ever made. I can work under a car or truck right off the heated concrete floor in complete comfort, aside from the hard surface.
Harold
I'll second what Harold said. Floor heat is the only way to go. lg no neat sig line
Harbor Freight sells a propane infrared heater for $39.95. It mounts on the top of the 5gal bottle and works rather well. I was given one a month ago, and its great.
Gunner
"Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where." Scipio
Don't think I'm not considering all this. The garage has no doors, so there's no way to heat it overall. I don't want open flames because of the fuel present, so that rules out a woodstove.
The IR propane heater is a nice idea - but then that means keeping a propane bottle around for it, etc. I have been considering an IR electric heater for the few times I want to work out there in the sub-zero times.
Jim
I have used the lights they sell for chicken brooders. A 250 watt R-40 lamp as I recall ( built in reflector ). It provides light and heat. You might also ask Vincent about the gloves he has. They are a fingerless glove with a bit like a mitten that can either be held on the back of the hand by some velcro bits or go over the exposed fingers.
Dan
jim rozen wrote:
I have worked with the IR propane heaters. They do have some advantages, even given the high cost of propane. The constant refilling is a PITA, though.
Gloves like that can be found at Airplane model stores (RC planes in winter) and very likely stores that carry hunting supplies...
I have a pair and use them when I use an air blower - tends to limit the vibration wear and tear on my arm. I don't switch hands back and forth during a tank of gas.
Mart> I have used the lights they sell for chicken brooders. A 250 watt R-40
I use a couple of the 4' Fostoria IR heaters from Enco in my garage - one for when it is chilly and two for when it is damn cold. Machines and tools were nice and toasty when it was -15F last week. The down side is it costs me about 16 cents an hour to run each one, or about $8 a day to run both. It's not bad if I turn them on for occasional work in the garage, but too expensive to leave them run 24/7. Before that I used a radiant kerosene heater, but the amount of ventilation I needed to prevent that queasy carbon monoxide poisoning feeling pretty much negated the heating effects.
Nick
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