I do not recommend this product - IR 5HP TS4N5 Compressor

Not this time ... but I will say that the Grizzly motor I put on my

Looks like the IR J21C (on this compressor) is the same as a US Motors D20C or maybe a cheepified version of it.

Most reciprocating compressors are simple reed valve naturally aspirated pumps that absolutely never need to be "primed" and an unloader if anything when working properly "deprimes" them. If an unloader does fail my experience is they tend to fail in the open condition. Even if they failed in the closed condtion the motor would not do "nothing". It might groan, whine, get hot and maybe trip the thermal or more likely the breaker. It wouldn't do nothing at all. I have seen unloaders fail, but long term the check valve in the tank will always fail eventually. Again it doesn't make the motor do nothing. It just makes it cycle a LOT more often.

I'm not sure why this went off into the weeds like this, unless you are grining through your whiskey glass and seeing how far you can bait me. LOL. Terry? Did you put him up to this. LOL.

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I wanted to see if anyone else would respond to that statement on a compressor dealer's web page the way I did.

No sign-up needed, simple and seems to work. Use it for images that don't matter to me if they circulate unattributed. Curious... hadn't checked it recently, here is one I made in Oct, 2019:

I recall seeing that statement. Interpreted it to mean that the pressure switch was "satisfied". It was seeing pressure as high enough and not yet low enough to turn the motor on. Was skimming text though and maybe missed something. Having done service work for most of my career I could easily see getting a call-out for compressor not working and find the problem such that pressure had not dropped low enough for it to come on yet...

I recall seeing that statement. Interpreted it to mean that the pressure switch was "satisfied". It was seeing pressure as high enough and not yet low enough to turn the motor on. Was skimming text though and maybe missed something. Having done service work for most of my career I could easily see getting a call-out for compressor not working and find the problem such that pressure had not dropped low enough for it to come on yet...

Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI

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I believe that was the intent, except for "a compressor will typically fail to start when it lacks sufficient air pressure"

Perhaps no one proof-read what the front office help composed and posted?

On the Internet small technical errors from authoritative sources tend to propagate widely. I don't trust my own knowledge all that far so I bring them up for comment.

I tend to "read" stuff as I think it was intended or makes sense without realizing it. It's not till someone like yourself points out errors that I then "see" it wasn't exactly as I'd interpreted it.

Yet when the neighbor drives up to me on his lawn tractor with the front wheel about to fall off it strikes a nerve. He'd been happily mowing his lawn and had yet to notice even though it had been that way for a long time😲

I tend to "read" stuff as I think it was intended or makes sense without realizing it. It's not till someone like yourself points out errors that I then "see" it wasn't exactly as I'd interpreted it.

Yet when the neighbor drives up to me on his lawn tractor with the front wheel about to fall off it strikes a nerve. He'd been happily mowing his lawn and had yet to notice even though it had been that way for a long time😲

Leon Fisk

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I'm inherently like that too. I've studied enough foreign languages to have grammatical correctness drummed into my brain, and I proof-read and edit my own postings until they blur before hitting Send.

I flunked Technical Writing in college because I couldn't settle on a logical linear path through what to me is a multidimensional network of facts and relationships. I started posting here for practice and found it much easier without the pressure to avoid mistakes. You may complain (good feedback) or not understand but you don't grade me or sign my paycheck.

I re-read too yet still miss stuff until after I hit "send". I let a lot of stuff slide in places like this for both myself and others. If I make a glaring error I'll try to follow up with a correction.

I don't "get" poetry other than something like Ogden Nash. A bit of rhyme and dash of humor with it. I suspect that poetry and grammer enthusiasts view wordplay much as I appreciate a good mechanical mechanism that makes no sense to them ;-)

I don't "get" poetry other than something like Ogden Nash. A bit of rhyme and dash of humor with it. I suspect that poetry and grammer enthusiasts view wordplay much as I appreciate a good mechanical mechanism that makes no sense to them ;-) Leon Fisk

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I've tried to pick up some "culture" but not that much stuck. I like "Carmen" for the lively music and Western-type story, its overture plays after the national anthems at the end of Formula 1 races. I was roped into tech work in film and theatre and enjoy a good musical.

Mensa mixed the Boston literati with scientists and engineers, usually successfully. Yes, the puns flew thickly. There was relatively little drinking at parties because they all were too busy talking. Generally I could keep up with everything, even Baroque composers, but if the topic drifted too far off a couple of us amateur historians would start discussing the battles on the Russian Front. High tech was also usually off the table although Byte's publisher Wayne Green was a member, as was Richard Lederer, the author of Get Thee to a Punnery.

The captain of the state high school quiz show championship team came to a Trivial Pursuit night and left with his jaw hanging down because we blew him away so thoroughly.

I used to see some very odd responces when I posed a question to a foriegn born designer who would translate my querry into his/her birth language; come up with a response and translate that into english. I discussed this with a foriegn born freind one time and he agreed that he sometimes did this even after working in English for over twenty years even though he had made a cosious effort to eliminate the process after about eight years

I used to see some very odd responces when I posed a question to a foriegn born designer who would translate my querry into his/her birth language; come up with a response and translate that into english. I discussed this with a foriegn born freind one time and he agreed that he sometimes did this even after working in English for over twenty years even though he had made a cosious effort to eliminate the process after about eight years

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English is largely a forced mix of Saxon German and Norman French, which is why it has so many synonyms with slightly different meanings, one from each. They make it more expressive if you know them, confusing if you don't. French and English translate word-for-word awkwardly but relatively understandably while German may have to be restructured to be comprehensible, word-for-word translations may not make sense. I'm slowly learning to understand the patterns of Chinglish.

My vocabulary is insufficient to think seriously in either of them.

I have this in both languages and the very natural sounding English version shifts ideas into different sentences, it was translated by paragraph.

On 5/3/2023 4:31 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

That is hysterical.

Personal perspective.

I don't really speak Spanish after living in a bilingual part of the country my entire life. I got good grades in conversational Spanish in college because I am good at taking tests and learning rules. I don't actually speak more than pidgeon Spanish. "Donde el bano", "tu quero cervesa," "yo gusto uno por favor," e no mas mucho. I do however make local native spanish speakers think I am more fluent than I am because I have a fair peasant accent when speaking Spanish having learned most of it from farm workers. Sadly when somebody rattles off Spanish in my vicinity I typically only catch a few words. Things like pinche gringo are easy to catch.

However, when I spent a fair amount of time in Mexico installing and servicing some video surveillance systems (I was there often enough and long enough I had to renew my Mexican work visa twice). I would start to get immersion thought process changes. I would start thinking in pidgeon Spanish and understand the meaning of what people where saying from context because I could follow the speech patterns. It was purely temporary. Two or three days, certainly within a week, back in an "American English" speaking environment and it is gone.

That being said I firmly believe that immersion is the best way to learn a language. Where I live now nearly every native Spanish (or rather Mexican Spanish) speaker is competent if not fluent in American English. They see the white guy and they speak English. Just across the border in San Luis or Algondones most merchants speak atleast a little better than pidgeon English, and I can usually get my points across well enough to find out if they expect to negotiate or not. I do not consider that to be immersion. You get just a little way from the border away from tourist destinations and even if they speak English they won't. Cuervos or Morelos, etc. Just a little way from the border, and you better atleast know basic phrases or you will go thirsty and s*it yourself. That's not really immersion though. You spend much time there and people learn you aren't a rubbernecking dirt bag tourist and show some respect and they open up and you find many of them will help you and they speak more English than they let on. If I really wanted to learn Spanish I think the thing to do would be to rent an apartment in a middle class working neighborhood in Mexico city. My work visa is long expired and didn't actually allow me to hold local jobs anyway so I would have to have a good reason to be there. Student, retired, but not rich, etc. Make friends. Bake to many pies and give them to neighbors, etc. Live with my neighbors.

There may be other great reasons for college students to spend a year abroad, but I think this is probably the best reason. Forced immersion to become competent in a language that is not your native one. To learn to think in your field of study and learn the thought process and logic flow of a different system of speech. Often a much better structured logic flow than English. Acceptable American English has somewhat chaotic logic flow, and may well be the cause of some people not being able to express their ideas well. They were never taught to force their thoughts into a logical flow and structure. The inverse is that its complicated and chaotic rules can sometimes allow for the rapid expression of very complex ideas. I have found myself giving an instruction to an employee only to see an expression of absolute and utter confusion spread across their face. I'll stop, play back what I said in my head, and think, "No I gave them everything they needed to know. Why do they look totally befuddled?"

Worse, even with all its chaotic rules, once you start to learn how to write English within them a mid level writing teacher will teach you there are times to break the rules. Sure a staccato list of simple sentences to pass on facts are easy to understand, and if you break them up with a few compound sentences to reiterate key points you make it less tedious to read, but if you want to have people follow you down the rabbit hole there are times when only a run on sentence will do the job. No, "It was a dark and stormy night," is NOT a good example.

Mild Tangent: Language can shape thought. There are one or two ways this has been presented in science fiction, but at the moment I can't think of any of the titles. If I do and can still find this thread I'll post them. I think its also why Esperanto never caught on. Its all structure and no meat. It has no soul and no rich embodiment of humanity as nearly every other language does. It shapes nothing. In the end we are not machines. We are meat and we make noise by pushing air through wet flappy meat.

Extra Credit: There is a great science fiction short story by Terry Bisson that embodies my last sentence above. Its not really "directly" about language, but it is one of the tenants of appreciating the premise.

That is hysterical.

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She is hysterical, ad-libbing her craziness on live network TV:

I never studied Spanish but thanks to Latin and French I can partly read it. I didn't really understand English until I encountered the fully structured rules of grammar in Latin. I think English is powerful for the freedom and adaptability it allows, despite its messiness.

UPS is almost back to their normal level of incompetence. USPS has picked a "new normal" that while a lower quality of service than it once was is consistent. Sadly Fed-Ex hasn't changed a bit.

Friday 5/5/2023 by end of day estimated between 12:30 pm - 4:30 pm

Initially expected: Wednesday, 5/3/2023

The new motor I bought independently is stuck in Chino Ca.  The same place that has managed to break multiple other heavy packages.  I honestly think their are guys there who espouse an active hatred of unloading heavy packages to they just push them out of the truck onto the concrete below.  They say it will be here Friday, but I won't hold my breath.  When it gets delayed in Chino they often do nothing until I can beg, plead, and if necessary bully the shipper into filing a claim.

I'm stunned. The motor I was waiting on to get my shop air going again arrived today only two days late, and it doesn't even look like the guys in Chino pushed it off the back of the truck and dropped it. No clue why they held it up for two extra days though. There is actually nothing wrong with the box, the original packing tape is all intact, and the original shipping label is clear and undamaged. I fired up the air compressor about an hour ago. Now I am debating working or going fishing.

Cool! Hard to argue about whether it was the motor or not too👍

Enough STRESS, go fishing ;-)

Cool! Hard to argue about whether it was the motor or not too👍

Enough STRESS, go fishing ;-)

Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI

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Agreed, it's time to de-compress.

I went ahead and ran jobs. Its kind of a bit of a relief to walk in the little machine room and see three machines running at the same time. Now if only I could quit screwing up jobs.

I was running a job yesterday on just one machine. Its got unequal gating due to the shape of the mold cavities. I was running a small batch job and just after it cut the first pair of gates I paused the machine because I think I got the unequal gate depth backwards. I checked the CAM, seemed like it was right so I went back and hit resume.

Today I was finally inspecting the plate... and nope! I was wrong the first time. Frack! Its a stock design so it has some value as "rejects" but I'd rather have done it right and sold them at full price.

A custom job I am running is also flaking out. For some reason the CAM wants to jump around on the finish passes breaking cutters. I can't figure out why so I finally told it to use the old slow, no efficiency calculations scan line method. It will take the job an extra hour, but that's still faster than doing it over again. It didn't show up in cut simulation. The simulator just shows the results of the tool paths. Double Frack! I already scrapped one plate. I paused the other one and was able to resume with a new code file atleast.

You guys are right. I should have gone fishing.