Locked out -- my own fault

Doug Miller on Thu, 15 Feb 2018

I just check the key hook before closing the last door.

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

Gerry on Wed, 14 Feb 2018 21:33:41 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Hmmm - wonder if I that will work. '99 Ford mini-van.

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

I pat the keys in my pocket when I pass through an exterior or car door.

You may not need a special key for the door. If not carry a door key copy in your wallet and keep a spare ignition key hidden inside. I did that with my old service van. Not because the ignition key was special but rather it was one less key on my already fat key ring...

Yeah, I used to do the same, JIC, and the fat keys are a pain.

I used to have a house key hidden beneath my front turn signal lens on the F150. But I'd never keep one in my wallet. If I lost it, the bad guy would have access. The one time I did lose my wallet, I had just put $100 worth of pay into it the day before, bought breakfast the next morning, and evidently lost it on the way to the car. The only things taken from it when it turned up in the mail were my draft card and the money. ('twas a long time ago) The credit card was still there.

My Tundra won't lock with the key in the ignition. I was going to lock it to let it warm up while I went inside, but it didn't work. I think it's an anti-stupidity feature.

Ditto. That's the only place I ever put my keys. It sucked when I changed into shorts one summer and habit caused me to lock the door as I went to check the mail. Had to dig up my house key, which was buried. I would never leave a key in a house plant or under a rock, let alone one of those fake key-hiding rocks, like some people's kids.

Larry Jaques on Thu, 15 Feb 2018

Where I live, I rarely wear shorts, so that's not a problem.

pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

Leon Fisk on Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:23:45 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

I'm mostly worried about locking the keys in the van. "And it looks like rain and the windows are open."

-- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

A lot of cars with keyless entry will lock ~2 minutes after the trunk is shut, if you don't open a door after shutting the trunk. A security feature, but if you don't know this, it can be a real PAIN.

Jon

My Honda Civic will not lock if the key is close enough to the ignition lock for the immobilizer transponder to be detected. Actually, it will lock, and then a second later unlock.

Toyota Prius's will unlock if the key fob is within about 20 feet of the car. Not exactly sure how they do that. I guess the key fob is a transponder that is interrogated by the car.

Jon

That's brilliant! We've got a couple old keys that have the right mechanical key part, but aren't programmed to the immobilizer. But, next time we lose a few more keys, we will have to get the immobilizer reprogrammed, so probably don't want to cut up the keys. (They cost a fortune, too!)

Jon

Well...

They gave me a lift to $ORKPLACE, and I had not reached my desk when they phoned me, whether I had a second key at hand, the one I'd given them had failed, and the car was very much in the way of about everybody... Yes I had, I always have.

vb

PS: This crappy thing was more than EUR 200 and took a week to deliver. "What would I have done had this happened on vacation abroad in the middle of nowhere?" "You would have stayed on for a week or two." Thank you very much indeed.

Was thinking similar, if needed make something like a corkscrew and thread it through one of the keys ring slot/hole.

Magnet would usually mean a steel tube.

Or depending on what the tube is and does, saw a hole in the tube and weld it back closed?

I saw that in Memoirs of a Millennial, Pete. Fun book. (kidding)

You might try a local key shop to see if they can match the profile.

I believe Teslas have some sort of proximity detection, too, unlocking your car when you get close. I have 10+ years on the key fob battery now. Maybe I should get new batteries to have around, JIC.

I cringed and quickly turned down that shrill voice. Take some voice lessons, lady. I loved how she casually tossed out the $279 price of the thermostat and only $69 for a link to make your thermostat remotely controlled. These millennials have the oddest sense of need for apps...even $400 ones.

Pass. Internet or phone-connected apps are never going on my life support, kitchen, or home security hardware, period.