On 9 Jun 2004 14:56:28 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (ken) wrote:
If cheap is what you are looking for check out Metal Lathe
Accessories. Go to www.statecollegecentral.com/metallathe/MLA-18.html
The casting kit is $95.00 I think. This is a good machine. I built one
for use in my shop and I love it. It certainly is cheaper than buying
one. Building it may end up costing more in labor than buying one but
I doubt it. The kit comes with instructions on how to make the files
out of regular files. It really is a good unit. It is quiet and smooth
running. Of course, if the thing is built sloppily, you will get a bad
machine. But any competent machinist would consider this a breeze to
make. There is nothing complicated about it. If you do decide to go
this route send me an e-mail and I'll tell you about a few mods I made
to the plans to please me.
Eric R Snow,
E T Precision Machine
How about a pix or two of your die-filer to the drop-box, for
posterity. And if not, then I'd like to get the same info. I haven't
done one yet, but drool over the MLA stuff at every NAMES show. I
hate filing by hand!!
I have posted the mods before on this group. Tell you what though,
when you get the kit contact me and I'll go over the changes. I'll see
about posting pictures. But only two changes are visible on the
outside. All the others are internal.
There were 3 filing machines on ebay when I looked a couple minutes
ago, current prices varied from cheap ($30) to expensive (>$200),
condition also variable but all claimed to work. Hope this helps you,
My boss is planning on getting one althought the 7in dia for the top
is a bit small. My brother had told me about this kit. He is looking
for a used one at an auction for me but that might take years to find
out here in rural Arkansas.
Great source, Randal. How do "real" die filers hold onto all those
different shapes? Each of those files has a different shank; e.g. a
triangular file has a triangular shank, a square file has a square
Randal O'Brian wrote:
Grant-are you trying to say the filing machine from MLA is not a
"real" filing machine? Because they are home made? Made to print these
machines work great. And I have sold many parts that have been filed
on my machine. Maybe I had better not tell my customers their parts
were finished on a "fake" machine :). But then, I fake it a lot.
Well, no, Eric, I'm not. But you have to admit they only hold shanks of
exactly one size, and you further have to admit that machine files come
with many sized shanks, ergo my question.
Eric R Snow wrote:
I have to admit that the files in the posted web site *appear*
to have varying shapes. However, the die-filer files which I purchased
from someone at the Patina gathering this spring (and who was also at
Cabin fever before that -- and who I saw there before I knew that I
needed die filer files), all had round shanks, no matter what the shape
of the file part happened to be. There were some with 1/8" shanks, and
the ones which I got to fit my machine, with 1/4" shanks.
I guess that I should have gotten some of the 1/8" shank ones as
well, since it would be easy to make an alternate file holder for the
Another factor which is important for die filer files is that
they should cut when the file is moving in the direction of the handle,
rather than the far more common arrangement of cutting as the file is
moving in the direction of the tip.
I think that I would have to exchange some e-mail with the
owners of that web site to clarify things before I bought any files for
my die-filer from them.
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In my limited experience, the smaller machine files have consistent 1/4"
round shanks no matter what the shape of the file. It's the larger files
like 1/2" round and 1/2" square, where a 1/4" round shank just wouldn't cut
it, that have shanks that are an exact continuation of the file profile,
I need to make some kind of bushing to securely hold the 1/4" shanks.
The handful of odd shape larger shanks, maybe they need bushings cut for
each shape. They sure don't clamp easily in my little Keller.
My All American has a small but heavily built C clamp type lower jaw. The
fixed jaw of the clamp has a V groove in it; the movable jaw is flat. As
you said, all my files' shanks are the same shape as the file itself, but I
have never had a problem with file slippage.
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