McChrystal fired

I was busy thinking about metal related matters, personally.

I've been trying to behave.

The military is under civilian control. McCrystal, who I have no doubt is an excellent warfighter and leader, crossed a line you do not cross unless you are willing to give up your job. Looks like he was willing and from what I can tell the Army and his men was his life. IOW, he fell on his sword.

I'd like to read Don's take on this. This is the (former) enlisted view.

Wes

-- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

The Marines in Afghanistan knew what a cowboy McCrystal was and will tell you he's a small team leader. I've also hard the term asshole but that isn't really the case. He came out of JSOC and those guys don't think they are part of the regular Army. Any command bigger than 100 guys was over his head in terms of technique.

He was the right guy for Afghanistan but the wrong guy to be in charge. Peter Principle rules. Should have let him lead special forces there and put someone else with a little political ability at the top.

--My two cents: how could a guy with that much military background manage to shoot himself in the foot? ;-)

AD or sending a message.

Wes

Regrettable, all around. Why did DOD even allow Rolling Stone magazine to do an in-depth story on the general in the middle of a war? And did his staff think the reporter was their buddy? Reporters are generally manipulative scumbags. I also can't help thinking how cool it would be if Kristy McNichol married McChrystal...

According to reports, that was the General's decision, not DOD's. It was his own contract PR man who set it up.

They apparently were so full of hubris and arrogance that they thought nothing would come of it.

It's extremely difficult for the libtards to deal with the fact that Obama handpicked this man to fight his war for him. The messiah goofed and there's nobody to blame, for now anyway.

ObamaFAIL. LOL!

Hand picked by Obama, you expected some kind of hopey thing? What did the libtards call his replacement, oh yeah, General Betray us. Another hand picked selection by the Kenyan prince.

========== This time next year he may well be glad that he got out when he did.

From the R/S interview it appears that he was not well served by his staff in that they have far too great a tendency to say the "wrong" things even [or particularly] if these are factually correct.

It is time for the west including the United States to admit they no longer have the stomach for the actions required to "pacify" or "civilize" traditional tribal cultures, i.e. liquidation of the male inhabitants over 12 and confinement to isolated reservations of any survivors where their culture can be eradicated and plagues allowed to flourish.

Given the Russian/Soviet experience/successes in "integrating" restive native cultures,e.g. Mongolia, Siberia, Ukraine, Baltic Republics, and the availability of MVD/GUPVO troops to implement the "integration," it was the height of folly and hubris for the U.S. to think they could do any better with Coca-cola and MTV, especially as these were directly counter to the prevailing cultural/tribal values.

======== From what I have seen of the interview he didn't. His staff shot him in the ass, and it is likely that many of their comments were taken out of context.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:27:32 -0400, Wes wrote the following:

men was his

Could YOU work for Ali Bama? Nor could I, and likely nor could McChrystal. He has been sideswiped by this admin since it came to office, if not before.

Yeah.

-- Peace of mind is that mental condition in which you have accepted the worst. -- Lin Yutang

On 23 Jun 2010 22:51:05 GMT, steamer wrote the following:

Self-respect finally got its say?

-- Peace of mind is that mental condition in which you have accepted the worst. -- Lin Yutang

======== Media articles indicate that the Iceland volcano eruption caused no-fly conditions over much of Europe and the reporter was embedded far longer than planned so the staff did indeed start to accept him. Also there seems to have been a significant amount of heavy drinking involved by some of the more outspoken but unidentified sources.

Except nobody seems to be claiming the article is inaccurate. I understand most of the comments are on tape.

men was his

Public display of disrespect for leadership is not acceptable for any military personnel.

The general was out of line. The C in C had no alternative but to fire him or get his resignation, just as Truman had to fire MacArthur for disobedience.

The military is not a democracy. Military people must behave respectfully toward their superiors even if they privately and personally regard them with contempt and disdain. This is especially necessary for high-ranking officers with high visibility because they have influence over so many subordinates.

So why did he do it? We can speculate, but I prefer not to.