My mystery for today- took the car through inspection today; failed for
"OBD not ready" in the emissions on board diagnostics. I had
disconnected the battery while doing maintenance and concluded the 20
mile drive to the inspection station would refill the computer.
Evidently I was wrong. What kind of driving is required to fill the
computer? The patient is a Ford Windstar, made of plastic and metal.
Kevin Gallimore
Same thing happened to me. Had to drive about 50 miles on
the expressway and a few days of regular street driving to
accumulate enough data in the OBD to pass the emmisions
test. I have a mercury(ford) sable. Fortunatley retesting was
free.
Best Regards
Tom.
Demand that the bastards put a tailpipe analyzer on it, or pass you.
They have no legal right to 'invade' your private space inside your
vehicle, and they have no means to connect an OBD-II connector to your
vehicle without doing so.
Such constitutes an unwarranted search and seizure without probable
cause.
Lloyd
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:10:15 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
Aren't the state inspections written up so the techs have legal access
to OBD ports? (Cars didn't yet have those when my smog license in CA
was current, way back in the '80s.)
I'm not entranced by the State digging into our lives, but I was
really sad when CA stopped its safety inspections after the ACLU took
them to court over its Constitutionality. They got a whole lot of
unsafe vehicles (and people) either fixed or off the streets. They
would run a mirror under the car to check for holes in the exhaust
systems, check all lights and turn signals, lean in the door and step
on the brake pedal to check for unsafe brake systems/low pedals, and
check the headlight alignment. They also caught a bunch of drunks and
got them off the roads, so it was absolutely for the greater good.
Now, all they're doing is looking for polluters and everybody's lights
blind others all the time. Go figure!
--
If you're trying to take a roomful of people by
surprise, it's a lot easier to hit your targets
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:10:15 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
Driving is a privilege, not a right.
To get the privilege is you have to follow the applicable laws to get
your license and get the vehicle registered. The smog rules are
over-reaching and draconian, but they are the law so we have to follow
them - until and unless we can get them changed.
I hope you brought your good walking shoes, because when your tags
expire you won't be able to drive your automobile on public streets
anymore, and they'll arrest you if you try doing it with expired tags.
And if you follow the same logic and don't let them check your
eyesight when you go in for a renewal, you won't have a Drivers
License either.
The moral of this story is, don't disconnect the battery for about a
week before you go in for a smog check (if you drive once or twice
every day for a good 15 or 20 miles) and all will be well. Or at
least if it doesn't have any problems.
--<< Bruce >>--
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:19:36 -0700, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
Only in America.
You go out and put yourself in hock for five years to buy a car so
that you can drive back and forth to work and when you take it to have
it inspected they tell you that it doesn't pass? You can't drive it?
"only in America?" have you lost your mind - we have one of the most
permissive set of automotive regulations in the developed world. Sure,
in Afghanistan you could drive things you couldn't drive here, but have
you ever even considered that there are other countries? Have you
looked at the automotive inspection schedule in Japan, England, France,
Germany, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Holland? You have absolutely no idea
what you are talking about and you are whining because you can not
impose the health costs of your car on others and are being forced to
fix what is wrong with it.
--
For a $5 dollar donation today you get credit for $10 with HIM
My goodness. so what are you telling me? That although you can't get
your new car to pass the smog inspection in America it is even worse
in other places?
Well, I suppose it is. You can't even buy a new car in Singapore
without government permission to do so.
Correct. My wife is from there. COE (certificate of entitlement) costs
over $70,000(singapore dollars, about $55,000 US, if you are lucky
enough to bid and get one). This entitles you to drive the car until it
is 10 years old. Then you must bid again. Kind of kills the used car market.
All motor vehicles imported into Singapore are slapped with a customs
duty of 41 per cent. There is also a Registration Fee to be paid. The
fee is $1,000 for private vehicles and $5,000 for company vehicles. In
addition, when a car is first registered (whether new or used), an
Additional Registration Fee (ARF) of 150 per cent of the car's Open
Market Value is payable.
--
Steve Walker
snipped-for-privacy@frontierbrain.com (remove brain when replying)
We had a saying when I lived in Germany "Da TUV is tough." If
they could put a screwdriver through _a_ rusty patch (and they knew
where they all were) the vehicle failed the inspection. Fail three
times, and you can not drive it 'home' but must get it towed from the
Inspection. And that is in addition to lights, brakes, smog, etc -
all of which must be in working order! And pretty much "stock" too.
And "bald tires" - you could be ticketed and fined for those, even
if the car was otherwise legally parked. Yes, you could be fined for
bald tires by a 'meter madcchen" - each. As in a 25 DMark fine, per
tire.
Ja, ja - tell me how tough things are in the States.
tschus
pyotr
p.s. There were many "funny" stories of foreigners trying to drive
into Germany, with automobiles which literally had parts fall off.
"Nein, das maschien gehen nichts! Ist verbot!"
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."
14:44:25 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Like hell! Those guys saw it happen, and they made sure it was
not going to be permitted on German roads.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."
11:01:16 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Ja, ja.
FYI: One of those interesting trivial bits was that Hogan's
Hero's, dubbed into German, was one of those "cult classics". in
syndication.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."
We weren't allowed to watch 'Hogan's Heroes' when I was in basic
training. One of the DIs had the nerve to state "That's nothing like a
real POW camp!" Talk about stating the obvious.
Hogan's Heroes is on one of the 'free' OTA subchannels, but I can't
connect to TVGuide.com right now to find it. I get Antenna TV, ME TV,
Retro TV and This TV with a QAM tuner in one of my computers. OTOH, so
is M*A*S*H.
--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
http://www.titantv.com/default.aspx/
I logged in and created a custom lineup to add a station from outside
the Boston metro area, and to delete all the Spanish and shopping
channels.
jsw
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