My mystery for today- took the car through inspection today; failed for
"OBD not ready" in the emissions on board diagnostics. I had
disconnected the battery while doing maintenance and concluded the 20
mile drive to the inspection station would refill the computer.
Evidently I was wrong. What kind of driving is required to fill the
computer? The patient is a Ford Windstar, made of plastic and metal.
Same thing happened to me. Had to drive about 50 miles on
the expressway and a few days of regular street driving to
accumulate enough data in the OBD to pass the emmisions
test. I have a mercury(ford) sable. Fortunatley retesting was
"azotic" fired this volley in news:kt6vgv$har$1
Demand that the bastards put a tailpipe analyzer on it, or pass you.
They have no legal right to 'invade' your private space inside your
vehicle, and they have no means to connect an OBD-II connector to your
vehicle without doing so.
Such constitutes an unwarranted search and seizure without probable
Aren't the state inspections written up so the techs have legal access
to OBD ports? (Cars didn't yet have those when my smog license in CA
was current, way back in the '80s.)
I'm not entranced by the State digging into our lives, but I was
really sad when CA stopped its safety inspections after the ACLU took
them to court over its Constitutionality. They got a whole lot of
unsafe vehicles (and people) either fixed or off the streets. They
would run a mirror under the car to check for holes in the exhaust
systems, check all lights and turn signals, lean in the door and step
on the brake pedal to check for unsafe brake systems/low pedals, and
check the headlight alignment. They also caught a bunch of drunks and
got them off the roads, so it was absolutely for the greater good.
Now, all they're doing is looking for polluters and everybody's lights
blind others all the time. Go figure!
Don't know for sure, but my brother is going through the same thing in a Toyota Camry. Over 200 miles, and all but one test is ready, but NJ won't pass it until every test is fully ready and there are no pending codes.
has the (long and tedious) steps to get 'er done, or you could just drive it for a while. Places like Autozone will check your computer for free.
you do not "fill up" the computer - you need to complete a specific
series of drive cycles that set flags, which are different for each car,
allowing all the emission related parts to be verified. On all the cars
I am familiar with, these take at least two separate cycles of driving
with the engine cooling off in between. on some cars it is quite
difficult to get the flags to set, on others it is pretty automatic -
you need to hook up an OBDII monitor and check the readiness flags
before you go. On most cars it requires low power smooth driving, some
start cycles (two to four) and an opportunity to check the CAT. you
need to find the drive cycles for your car.
Driving is a privilege, not a right.
To get the privilege is you have to follow the applicable laws to get
your license and get the vehicle registered. The smog rules are
over-reaching and draconian, but they are the law so we have to follow
them - until and unless we can get them changed.
I hope you brought your good walking shoes, because when your tags
expire you won't be able to drive your automobile on public streets
anymore, and they'll arrest you if you try doing it with expired tags.
And if you follow the same logic and don't let them check your
eyesight when you go in for a renewal, you won't have a Drivers
The moral of this story is, don't disconnect the battery for about a
week before you go in for a smog check (if you drive once or twice
every day for a good 15 or 20 miles) and all will be well. Or at
least if it doesn't have any problems.
Only in America.
You go out and put yourself in hock for five years to buy a car so
that you can drive back and forth to work and when you take it to have
it inspected they tell you that it doesn't pass? You can't drive it?
"only in America?" have you lost your mind - we have one of the most
permissive set of automotive regulations in the developed world. Sure,
in Afghanistan you could drive things you couldn't drive here, but have
you ever even considered that there are other countries? Have you
looked at the automotive inspection schedule in Japan, England, France,
Germany, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Holland? You have absolutely no idea
what you are talking about and you are whining because you can not
impose the health costs of your car on others and are being forced to
fix what is wrong with it.
My goodness. so what are you telling me? That although you can't get
your new car to pass the smog inspection in America it is even worse
in other places?
Well, I suppose it is. You can't even buy a new car in Singapore
without government permission to do so.
"Steve W." on Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:17:06 -0400
typed >> Only in America.
We had a saying when I lived in Germany "Da TUV is tough." If
they could put a screwdriver through _a_ rusty patch (and they knew
where they all were) the vehicle failed the inspection. Fail three
times, and you can not drive it 'home' but must get it towed from the
Inspection. And that is in addition to lights, brakes, smog, etc -
all of which must be in working order! And pretty much "stock" too.
And "bald tires" - you could be ticketed and fined for those, even
if the car was otherwise legally parked. Yes, you could be fined for
bald tires by a 'meter madcchen" - each. As in a 25 DMark fine, per
Ja, ja - tell me how tough things are in the States.
p.s. There were many "funny" stories of foreigners trying to drive
into Germany, with automobiles which literally had parts fall off.
"Nein, das maschien gehen nichts! Ist verbot!"
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."
In the early 1970's American GIs didn't have to meet all the
requirements the Germans did, or pay their huge gas tax, but the
safety inspection was still more demanding than at home. For instance
the hand brake must be able to stop the car by locking up both rear
wheels. I heard that Germans couldn't even install spark plugs the
maker hadn't recommended.
Correct. My wife is from there. COE (certificate of entitlement) costs
over $70,000(singapore dollars, about $55,000 US, if you are lucky
enough to bid and get one). This entitles you to drive the car until it
is 10 years old. Then you must bid again. Kind of kills the used car market.
All motor vehicles imported into Singapore are slapped with a customs
duty of 41 per cent. There is also a Registration Fee to be paid. The
fee is $1,000 for private vehicles and $5,000 for company vehicles. In
addition, when a car is first registered (whether new or used), an
Additional Registration Fee (ARF) of 150 per cent of the car's Open
Market Value is payable.