I guess you are right, but I pulled various people from various places before (I just enjoy doing it), and all cars had at least something to grab on. Apparently his beamer had something also, as someone said, just hidden.
iOn Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:46:54 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, Eric R Snow quickly quoth:
Send boxes of BBs for Christmas to everyone you know in wheelchairs?
-------------------------------------------- Proud (occasional) maker of Hungarian Paper Towels.
These photos don't look "right". Notice the left side of the car and the hood have abrasion marks as if it had rolled over. If the car had rolled with the bike impaled in it, the tail end of the bike would be smashed too.
If there were justice the handicapped would get a $500 fine for parking in non-handicap spaces. Ever notice all the empty handicap spaces at Home Depot, but they are all full at the bars.
Handicapped are not nobility, they should be like everyone else. If they want special parking spaces, they should pay more for a driver's licence.
Nick, You're right, handicapped are not nobility. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't help out when we can. It's hard enough to get around in a wheelchair without having to wheel across a parking lot in the rain. Most folks in wheelchairs are not there because of their carelessness. Usually it's because of illness or because someone injured them. And getting redress from someone who has injured you is most of the time inadequate. I'm happy that spaces are provided for these people. Not having these spaces would prevent many handicapped folks from having access. This is discrimination just as much as racial discrimination. People can't choose their race. Nor can they choose not to be born with muscular dystrophy. Sure, there some people who have become paralyzed because of their own stupidity but it's better to let a few get away with something than it is to bar all. Eric R Snow
I'm sorry that you have such a narrow, bigoted view of the world. It is blatantly clear that you have never had an immediate family member with a severe handicap. We have a boy who is quadriplegic. You need to go push a wheelchair for one day at a public event of any type. I used to question some of the handicap requirements as they phased into the construction industry. I used to wonder why so many parking spaces had to be handicap. I used to hate having to install multi turn switch backs into buildings with hundreds of pounds of steel railings. Take someone in a wheel chair to your state or county fair one day. Take dad or gramps with you to the lumber yard or Wal-Mart for his one big outing this month when he can hardly walk. Maybe you'll come away with a little more compassion in your heart and a little more respect for the ADA. Yes, it costs all of us additional money for every building built. I'll pay my share.
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Well, if the fire department is anything like the ones around here [quite professional[ they would have cut the car to pieces to recover the bodies. No way would the VW look as good as that. Bert
The one I refer to was the third vehicle in two spaces - made it impossible to wheel my SiL to the passenger side door, so I left her out in the driving lane and backed out to load her. Gerry :-)} London, Canada
Yeah, I've been seeing the wisdom of all those acessibility ideas lately too.
Ever realize that a standard wheelchair won't fit through most doors? And that buying a special one costs a bundle more, and takes longer to get?
Anyone who says "we don't need crap like that" is young and planning on never getting old. Nice plan if you can pull it off.
Oddly though I've seen many public places (resturants especially) that seem to pride themselves on going the extra bit, beyond what the law requires. I guess the idea is if you make it easy for handicapped folks to frequent your establishment, it brings in more business in the long run.
As far as private dwellings go, I have come to the conclusion that the best situation for a wheelchair bound person would be one large open room, with all fixtures and living spaces unimpeded by any internal walls or doors. Maybe a pull-aside curtain for the bathroom but beyond that it seemed like anywhere I was with my mom this summer, the first thing I wanted to do when bringing her to a new enviroment was to 'modify' the surroundins with a sawzall and a sledgehammer to simply get stuff out of the *way*.
Jim
Too bad you couldn't find the person who owned the other correctly parked vehicle. Then you could both move your cars to within a half inch of the center one, lock up, and go out for lunch or something for a few hours.
:^)
Jim
HA! Reminds me of the time got to do some showing off!
I had a 1976 Vega, which didn't handle worth a darn in the snow. I kept some heavy junk in the back which helped a good deal. I had a
100' street that only had 2 houses on it, so it was VERY low on the snow plowing priority. It was also right next to the best sledding hill in the city. (There actually used to be a trolley-car bridge there, and the short street and hill were left after the bridge was taken out.)So, I came home from work one evening, and there were 4 people rocking a 4x4 trying to get it unstuck in the middle of the street. I knew if I stopped, I'd be stuck, too. So, I went around them, partly off the side of the street, and whipped it up into my driveway. They eventually gave up and abandoned the 4x4 right in the middle of the street. I couldn't beleive I could get around them in a 2WD car that performend poorly in the snow, and they couldn't get their 4WD truck moving with 4 helpers!
Sheesh!
Jon
On 10 Dec 2005 19:26:48 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, jim rozen quickly quoth:
Or break out your mobile welder and tig their doors shut?
-------------------------------------------- Proud (occasional) maker of Hungarian Paper Towels.
Yeah, I asked that same question 2 days ago. No documentation has thus far been presented.
Reminds me of the time when Scotty got snockered at the transporter console and re-materialized Kirk's bike into a patch of space-time that happened to be occupied by Spock's VW...
If you spin it, or break loose in any way, then hitting a bump, rut, or patch of very high friction coefficient stuff can roll it. Also, if one looses rear end, overcorrects, gets behind, in a "tank slapper mode" the roll oscillations may build up so that it eventually rolls.
been away / busy
can't give links as it's from memory, this is not a recent pic.
basically the picture is a "set up", if you have any experience of RTA's and study the picture you see way too many "anomalies"
if you want to see a GENUINE bike hits compact car side on at high speed crash look at
I saw that too. Brand new rear tire, no road miles on it.
Although they may have had to remove the bike to rescue the passengers and remove the gore before putting it on public display.
Bart
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We used to have a Suzuki Samerai that was just perfect for such occasions. We bought it rolled over from an insurance auction and beat it back to looking OK and used it as a motorcycle pickup vehicle with a small trailer. (parents owned a motorcycle shop)
We used to go out of our way to box in losers that took two parking spaces, handicapped spaces etc. We could get that thing within a inch of the "victim" and they would have to go in the passenger door or back door of their vehicle. Worst they could do is slam their door into the "Slameri" and that would cause more damage to their vehicle than ours.
AND WE DIDN'T CARE!!
Now my normal ride is too nice looking to do that with. Too bad as it sure felt good to help others understand their bad ways. (SMILE!!)
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jim rozen wrote:
Plasma cutter!!!!!!!!!!!
:^)
You could do a *lot* more damage with one of those.
Jim
Hello,
You would be surprised what type of car you would need to stop a speeding bike then. I have seen the results of a motorcycle travelling estimated 150kph hitting a Ford SUV and basically cutting the SUV in half. Bike was a 1000cc sport bike (can't remember if it was a R1 but that's what sticks in my mind)
Driver of SUV survived, rider of bike did not.
Jeff
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