OT: Green Washing

Pre-Meltdown · 2007-12-07T17:09:58+00:00

Awl-Apropos of the tumblers/washers threads, and previous posts on the win-win-win-win scenario with frontloader washers, I saw a fairly stunning Bosch ad for their front loaders:They have calc'd, for the 10 million washers that Merkins buy each year (wow!), that using their frontloader would save 900 billion gallons of water over the lifetime of the product (presumably 10-15 yrs), which is enough to supply all of Britain's drinking water for a lifetime!!And proly their bathing water, as I unnerstand Brits don't bathe much. And France's....But I'm guessing Bosch didn't want to offend anyone, esp. considering certain historical events....Haven't done the calcs, but I can tell you that a top loader uses 40-80 gals a load (which I know from filling dat muthafucka up manually--but you can check it via a water meter--convert from cu ft to gals by multiplying by 7.5), which is enough to flood some septic systems after just a couple loads.My Miele uses, I think, less than 5 gals for a typical load, altho Miele says 5 or 7 to 12.It seems like much less than 5. I really should measure it.Ironically, I believe that the real energy savings comes not from the inherent efficiency of the frontloader itself, but on the energy it saves when drying in a dryer. The very high spin rpms result in perhaps in a 75%--or more--reduction in drying time/energy.Send me your top loaders. I like to take'em apart. Brilliantly designed. (metal/parts content). :)

OT: Green Washing

Dec 07, 2007 45 Replies

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J. Carroll 18 years ago

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Hey Ed. Have a look at this.

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? Your tax dollars at work.

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Stealth Pilot 18 years ago

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reverse osmosis anyone?

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Ed Huntress 18 years ago

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It's kind of a neat site but it's still dark out there (9:15 AM EST); can't see a thing except a couple of light bulbs.

I was looking at the conductance values for the water at a couple of sites. Damn, you could get electrocuted in that water.

I think we'll keep what we have, thanks. I remember watching California turn brown in July. d8-)

-- Ed Huntress

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dcaster 18 years ago

I clicked on the map and got New Jersey. Noted they were talking about radioactivity and TCE in the ground water. Glad you are going to keep what you have.

Dan

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alphonso 18 years ago

My sister lives on the southwest side of San Antonio a couple of miles from a big sewer water treatment plant. They had a special tour for the residents serviced by the plant. My sister was especially impressed with the tour when the guide dipped a cup into the water at the end of the processing and took a drink.

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Gary H. Lucas 18 years ago

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We do that too. In fact the best way to run an RO is to put it behind an ultrafilter. The ultrafilter ensures the RO only sees dissolved solids, which they can handle easily. We use ROs to recycle Glycol from aircraft deicing fluid. However RO is not an absolute barrier, some of the stuff you are removing always passes through. In the case of Glycol about 7% of what goes in comes out in the permeate. So we run it through two or more additional stages, each passing about 7% of what goes in.

Gary H. Lucas

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