OT: Indian Point Nuke Plant

FWIW, indian point has a pretty good collection of armed military guards. I wouldn't try tramping through the woods in Verplank nowadays.

I'm not sure if the boat in the river still has the Phalanx system on it or not.

Jim

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jim rozen
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There may be cameras and alarms, but get close enough and I'm sure you'll see brass and lead.

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Owlmeat

On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:40:37 +0100, Andy Dingley calmly ranted:

So why not a clip -full- of blanks?

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Larry Jaques

Historical note - that policy originated in Mayberry.

Wayne

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wmbjk

National Guard units are doing those jobs. My brother's unit has been deployed several times in the last three years to provide security at bridges, tunnels and airports. The soldiers are fully armed, but they only back up the local law enforcement. The transit authority police are the ones in charge - in other words, they can only shoot if the cops tell them to. If the soldiers spot anything suspicious, they cannot take action, they must report it to the police officers.

This is arrangement is both good and bad. The good part is, the military is not acting as a police force. The bad, of course, is that response time is longer - but only slightly, since they are all on site.

-Ron

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Ron DeBlock

Blanks are too dangerous; people treat them as if they're harmless, they also get confused with live rounds and casual bad guys will still have less respect for them than a single live round.

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Andy Dingley

IIRC one of the standard demonstrations that stunt armorers perform in front of film crews and casts is to shoot a hole through a phone book - with a blank.

Jim

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jim rozen

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:41:10 +0100, Andy Dingley calmly ranted:

Confused? Oh, so your "people" are shooting rounds at others just for fun? It's your scenario that's too dangerous, not the fake rounds. If any guard at a nuke plant ever fired a weapon without good cause, they'd be bounced out of there before the barrel stopped smoking.

You mean the guy trying to rob/burglarize/destroy the place will have -less- respect for the guard than he already does? WTF does that matter? Really, Andy.

But you're right. Blanks would be a bad idea. If the guard needs a gun, he needs live rounds right then. Blanks would be a danger to the unarmed guard by leaving him somewhat defenseless.

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Larry Jaques

Ayup. Recall John Hexxum? He blew his head completly off with a blank in a .44 magnum. It was a realllllll mess.

Gunner

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Gunner

I think I recall that being the Seabrook plant, in Seabrook, NH. I remember reading that one of the guys had a chest freezer or two full of these lobsters at home. And lots of them where not legal size. BIG fines and penalties for that in these parts. They take thier lobsters REALLY SERIOUS around New Hampshire.

-AL

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Al A.

Yes, I think it *was* Seabrook. I do recall the article had a snapshot of a game warden holding up a critter that he had lifted out of the car's trunk, which was full of 'em.

Yep, I've heard tell of divers getting nearly shot over lobster pots in that neck of the woods.

Jim

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jim rozen

Cows out west, lobsters out east.

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Pete Bergstrom

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