OT: Network Cable organizer

Did a bit of browsing and did not find a group that had much activity with regards to network cabling so I figured I ask here having seen some other OTs on computer stuff. I'm looking for something to organize a cable re- work and re-pull at work. I'm running cat 6 to replace thin net and old cat 5 cables that have been placed willy nilly over the course of the last

15 years and I'd like to use some kind of fixtures to neaten up the runs as well as making it easier to backtrack the wires 20 years down the road. What I'd like is some kind of strip that I can tack to the ceiling of the basement, all of the wiring is surface mounted, and that can handle up to 16 cables flush up to the ceiling. Something simple like a plastic strip with molded areas that the cable can snap into so that I can put 10 or so up in a line and have a nice orderly run of the cables instead of bundling them together into a giant group that would be a real pain to separate if I needed to. It wouldn't have to be in groups of 16, smaller groups would work, and I'd even consider single holders if I could find them cheap enough but a multiple unit would make it easier to keep things neat. Yes I'm being a bit anal but after years of going, 'Where in the hell does that one go' I'd like to redo it so I can, or whoever comes after me, retrace it at a glance. Any suggestions? I figure they are out there but I'm missing the right term to let Google pull them up for me. Obligatory metal content: They do not have to be plastic, metal would be fine but I figure plastic would be cheaper.

Bill

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Bill
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I have seen that people sh*t on the road in China. So I figured it's OK doing that in your living-room.

Nick

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Nick Müller

If this outfit can't supply what you want, I'm afraid you are SOL.

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Instead of trying to maintain traceable order along the cable routes, it seems to me good tags on the cables at terminations and a detailed cable schedule are all you really need.

Randy

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Randal O'Brian

And an inexpensive "toner" set. I ran the IS division of a State health department during Y2K. Every network tech there had a TDR and bandwidth testing equipment available, but not one of them knew how to use a standard telephone toner.

Because the state failed during installation to follow your suggestion to accurately label everything at both ends, my people were forever ringing out runs to find their terminations. The toners made for a huge labor savings. (at $79 for a cheap set, they paid for themselves in ONE job).

LLoyd

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

"Randal O'Brian" wrote in news:ul60h.23317$ snipped-for-privacy@tornado.texas.rr.com:

I don't just want to know what end goes where I need to know which section is which so when I get ordered to move the access point in an office or floor area I can easily trace the end to a specific cable and reroute it without having to unboundle it from twenty other cables and use a signal tracer to make sure I have the right one. Its happened before and I'm sure it will again. I looked at the web site and didn't see exactly what I was looking for so maybe I am SOL but it was worth a try.

Bill

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Bill

Look about 1/2 way down this page (McMaster p.1386).

SMC also makes a similar product...

Ned Simmons

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Ned Simmons

Ned Simmons wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.suscom-maine.net:

Cool! Looks almost exactly like the picture I had in my head. I've ordered 5 to play with and if they work out they are cheap enough to put in a whole bunch to keep a nice neat look to the new runs.

Thanks

Bill

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Bill

Get the "black box" catalog, or go to their web site. Even if you don't buy from them, you will get a good idea what is available for the purpose.

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Jon

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Jon Elson

Some years ago we actually made our own. Wall plates are marked like

161-2, which means the 2nd Cat5 jack in room 161. Then, in the network rack, there is a plate with a zillion holes in it. Each hole has a label that matches the number on a wall jack. When the network people pulled the bundles of cat5 cable, they passed it through the correctly labeled hole before terminating the plug on it. The necessary cable is just pulled out a couple feet and plugged into the network switch.

I don't really like this method, but it was the cheapest, as it avoids at least one jack strip and patch cable per wall jack. And, the traditional scheme with the jack strip and patch cables can become quite a maze of spaghetti too.

Jon

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Jon Elson

There's no point to this. Just bundle the cables and make sure they're tagged correctly. Use good quality terminations from pandiut or avaya. No name garbage parts are just that. If you opt for terminations that require an impact tool get a good one, like the stuff harris sells. It's the ends of cables that tend to suck.

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Cydrome Leader

Bix blocks

Gunner

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Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"

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Gunner

Damned straight. I keep a pair of Progressive toners and an inductive pickup in the truck, (along with a butt set) to tone out shop wiring, network and phone, and even machine tool wiring.

When they busted into my truck in 2000 and cleaned me out..they got the Harris Dracon TS-21 and all the good stuff.shrug..now I just got an old beater buttset..rotary dial no less..but it works for most things

Gunner

Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"

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Gunner

Bix blocks or 66 blocks..you can use the modular RJ45 adapters and simply move a whole 4 pair at the same time

Gunner

Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"

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Gunner

I spent 13 years at GTE (Verizon) and they didn't try to run nice neat ribbons of cable like that - way too much effort, and it really doesn't accomplish anything. They just ran open cable tray or racks and dropped the cables in.

Go up one notch to McMaster Page 1387, and look at the Wire-flex cable tray and the ceiling brackets to hang it in a basement. You lay the cables in now, and later it's easy to trace or pull out dead wires while leaving the rest alone. It's all Class 2 Current Limited wiring, so it can be exposed - but you might need to use Plenum-rated cable to keep the Fire Inspector happy.

And you can always make your own - I make up cable trays for telephone wire out of Douglas Fir 1X3 or 1X4 wood nailed together - quite effective and rather cheap.

Or go get a roll of Concrete Reinforcement Mesh (1/8" or 3/16" wire welded on 4" centers), and you can snip off and bend your own sections of wire cable tray around a 4X4 or 4X8 post.

If you feel like welding, get a bundle of round rod. a chop saw and a small bench bender to make the hoops, and go to town.

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Bruce L. Bergman

Gunner wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Not quite what I was looking for Gunner. I don't need to make the end points easier to identify, labeling each cable will do that, I want to keep the 15 or 20 runs up flat to the ceiling and seperate for a neater look and ease of resituating an entire run later on. The item, 2216T13 - Multi-Slot Routing Mount for 1/4" Od, 10 Slot, doodad from McMaster-Carr looks like it might do the trick. I've ordered 5 to play with at at $1.40 a piece I'll have no problem ordering 30 or so to bolt up on the ceiling to keep my runs nice and neat. This way I can lay out the routes first by putting them up then just snap in the cables as I re-run the the new cat 6 lines.

Bill

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Bill

On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:23:48 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Bill quickly quoth:

Just remember how brittle plastic gets over time. The longer I live, the less I like it for things like this.

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Larry Jaques

you're not going to want to use 66 blocks for any network made this century.

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Cydrome Leader

Ah! ok...but nobody who has a budget to meet is gonna do more than lay the stuff in a cable tray and move on to the next job.

But you should be commended for bringing an Aerospace outlook to the mundane.

Gunner

Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"

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Gunner

Why? I moved a work station the other day, it was already run on 66 blocks, in a steel cabinet, running T-100 just fine

Gunner

Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error"

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Gunner

I thought 110 blocks were used for that purpose. I always used a patch panel and ran extra cat5 to any room for the 'unplanned' eventuality. Beat sticking repeaters all over the place.

Wes S

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clutch

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