OT: Ratcheting bearing?

(I'm not sure where this would be on topic)
I need something to help drive a wheel. A bearing will be stuck on a
shaft that will be connected to a DC motor. The shaft cannot be
allowed to apply reverse force on the motor. I can explain further if
necessary.
What I want is something like a ratcheting wrench uses. Apparently
there are ratcheting devices to drive the wheel of a bicycle but what
I've seen of those would be too large. It needs to be no more than
about 1 inch maximum diameter.
So, is there such a thing as a ratcheting bearing? Something similar?
What I mean by "ratcheting" is that the bearing will turn freely in
one direction but won't turn in the other direction.
By the way. I recall a clicking sound made by some geared bicycles
when coasting, was that made by a ratcheting device? Just curious.
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John Doe
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The clicking sound on multi speed bikes is a ratcheting device that uses dogs to engage teeth when pedaled and slip when coasting.
I believe you are looking for a Torrington bearing. These don't use teeth and grip a smooth shaft in one direction and slip when the shaft rotates at a faster speed than the bearing is being turned.
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RLM
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Tom
similar?
A 'spring clutch' would give you unidirectional gripping
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AWEM
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Andrew Mawson
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Well that's enlightening.
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John Doe
Many many spring clutches used in electromechanical type writers such as the old IBM 'golfball'. To acutate all you need is a slight friction drag on the free end of the spring so it tends to 'wind up' and grip the shaft. They could operate as amazing speeds both gripping and releasing.
AWEM
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Andrew Mawson
Perhaps that's what you want -- but I think what you *need* is a worm gear.
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Doug Miller
I dont know strong you need it to be - fishing reels have anti reverse bearings in them to stop the handle reversing. It is usually a self contained bearing unit - If you where near South Africa I could give you a bunch :)
Tim South Africa
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TMN
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That's all one line. It's page 1092 in the McMaster-Carr catalog.
"one-way locking needle bearings".
LLoyd
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
It's more on topic than a lot of others.
The bike devices are called freewheels ("free wheels"?), see also "overrunning clutches".
Bob
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Bob Engelhardt
Search for a "sprag clutch" or "sprag clutch bearing" instead of a "spring clutch", and I think you'll find what you are looking for. There are a number of sizes and styles available, from a number of manufacturers. Basically, they all use asymmetrical cams between the inner and outer races to lock up in one direction and freewheel in the other. Some have just the cams and must be used with ball or roller bearings, others have one or two rows of ball or roller bearings built in.
John Martin
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John Martin
it is called a sprague clutch.
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Stealth Pilot
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:26:08 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, John Doe quickly quoth:
Google "Sprag clutch". They're used in automatic transmichigans, conveyor belt systems, etc.
Ayup.
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Larry Jaques
Sprag is the correct (or at least more common) spelling.
The spring clutches and roller clutches are suitable for light duty, non-critical applications. Sprag clutches are available with much higher torque capacity than either spring or roller clutches.
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Ned Simmons
There are devices out there that look like roller bearings but the rollers are egg shaped instead of being round. Had an electric starter on a Gravely tractor years ago with this set up. It allows free rotation in one direction but locks up in the other. No ratchet pawls to wear or break, just a series of cam shaped rollers between two smooth surfaces. Don't know the name for them but I bet someone here does
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Gerry
Much depends on how much power/torque and speed you are transmitting.
for light duty use RC model helicopters use something that may be useful.
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Let the group know how you make out and what your project was.
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Hey, Unca. You might be slightly misinterpreting "light duty". A decent ABC .30 will turn out well over 1 HP at 18 to 20 grand.
LLoyd
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
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Wow, thanks for the link, that was my next question. What I asked for was probably more like what Andrew Mawson first provided, but the one-way bearings (with or without radial load protection) might be even better for my project.
Whatever, it has to be something discussed in this thread. Very useful information, examples, and terminology, thanks.
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John Doe
I do, unfortunately.
Gravely call them "cams" or "roller cams", I can't remember which and I'm too lazy to look it up. What they ought to be called is RCAYBBSDWYSTPs. That is "roller cams and you'd better be sitting down when you see the price". They are about 1/2" long, maybe 1/4" to 5/16" diameter. Not much to them. They wear out primarily because the tit on the sprocket hub that you put the hole in the hand starting strap on looks somewhat like a grease fitting, so a previous owner has often removed it and replaced it with a real grease fitting and then pumped the hub full of grease. The last ones I ordered listed for $28 and change. That's EACH, and there are 21 of them in the clutch. The dealer double checked the price, apologized for it, and then sold me 3 of them at about $20 each. Which was enough to get the clutch to lock up properly, at least for the time being. If it goes again, I'll consider machining the sprocket assembly to take an off-the-shelf sprag clutch.
John Martin
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John Martin
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Must the shaft they are stuck onto be very smooth?
If so.
Any suggestions locally (USA) for a short 1" or 2" piece of 1/4" diameter smooth steel rod? I guess it has to be "ground".
Or do I have to order that online too? I was in a hurry (to have the bearings shipped today) and bought them without thinking much about what those bearings might require to be usable. All I have is some ordinary steel rod purchased from Lowe's.
Thanks.

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John Doe

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