Site Check Please! Gages!

Looks good in IE 5.5 and Mozilla 0.9.6, but I get a blank screen in Netscape 4.77. Viewing page source shows plenty of code, it's just not displaying anything.

Jon

--Very nice! Wish you also sold pressure gauges tho... :-)

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:34:20 GMT, steamer scribed:

Ed:

Let me know the MFG's and I will happily ask for their overstock, discontinued, and refurbed to put on the site!

I know and love your work with steam...

Best,

Freddie

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 08:13:39 -0700, Jon Anderson scribed:

Hi Jon:

ASFIK: Netscape 4.77 does have trouble interperting XML and some of the w3 extensions. The question is :

Should I downgrade a site to support 4 year old browser, I think not.

Upgrade your frigging browser - BOZO

Take it easy, Fred! He was just giving you the information that you, yourself asked for. He didn't tell you that you should change anything, just informed you of a problem, as requested.

You wanted feedback ("... MUCH needed!") and when you get it you call the poster a "BOZO"? You expect people to patronize you? Not me. Bob

I have a better idea. Detect non-XML browsers and put up a message:

"Update your Frigging Browser, You are a Bozo and I don't sell to BOZOs"

Seriously, I thought the site looked quite nice with Netscape 7.1, and you had some products that I'd be interested in. But with the attitude you showed toward Jon, I don't believe I'll be doing any business with you.

There are any number of reasons why a person might have to use a 4 year old browser, or for that matter, even a text-only browser. It's bad enough to deny them access to your site, but calling them a Bozo is just unacceptable to me.

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:32:08 -0400, Mike Graham scribed:

Yup, your right.

Sorcery to jump on people... Was up all night, I appreciate all the feedback. I should take "chill pill" and forget about the site for a few days...

Sorry to anyone I pissed off. '

Freddie

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:42:13 -0400, Fred scribed:

I formally apologize to the fine people of RCM for some of the statements I made in recent post... I am sorry for that.

It is up to me to make the site better, so more people can see it.

Best regards,

Fred

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:46:41 -0400, Mike Graham scribed:

Thanks Mike

Yup:

Have not done that yet, but plan to get ALL the specs an accuracy in soon... Is 24" and 48"..

Contact Us is still waiting for a page to link to...

I will make it today.

Thanks for the feedback...

Best,

Fred

Hi Fred,

Looks good under:

Netscape 7.02/Win2000 IE6 / Win2000 IE5/Win98SE

Mozilla 0.9.2.1 under Gnome/Redhat 7.2

Konqueror 3.0.0.12 under KDE 3.0.0.10 / Redhat Linux 7.3 Konqueror 2.2.1 under KDE 2.2-11 / Redhat 7.2

Displays blank page under Netscape 4.7 / Win98SE. Source view shows the code is there OK, but just a blank page. Same behavior with Netscape

Cheers, Stan

Fred wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:17:14 -0700, Jim Stewart scribed:

Jim;

Thank you. You are absolutely correct. I made a off color comment to a person who was just trying to help me correct the flaws of my own doing... I have realized the faults, and are working to correct them

You are excellent to point the problems out, and I thank you.

I have made a formal apology to Jon, and the Newsgroups in general for by abhorrent behavior

Fred

One thing that old Netscape is really good for is finding uncompleted nesting in HTML code. I suspect they use a recursive algorithm that just sits in limbo if it doesn't complete. I am far from an expert, but I found out the hard way that if I didn't close all of my frames properly then Netscape wouldn't work, though everything else did. You don't have frames in your site, but you *do* have tables. You have a section here:

where you don't close the table with a code. This may (!) be the problem. There *is* a code right after the section I quoted, but it matches with the code right after the . If you count the codes and codes by just doing a 'find' for 'table' then you'll see that you have one more '' than you do s.

hi fred,neat site. it loads pretty fast and had no probs with my browser (I use Netscape). Contact Us page left images not loading though.

As a suggestion maybe you could add some sort of category column or sorting to the product list.

Rgds, Sam

It's no big deal. I don't like IE any.version and Mozilla runs slower than a snail on my poor old 200hmz computer. I've got a faster Dell sitting next to the desk but have just been too busy to finish transferring all my files and getting Mozilla up and running. As long as ebay still works with Netscape, I'm fine with it.

But really though, lots of folks are still using older browsers and it might be helpful if at least some message could be displayed letting the viewer know why they aren't seeing the site.

Jon

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:12:29 -0500, "Mike Henry" scribed:

Hey Mike:

Thanks for the follow-up... Actually I have not done a couple of pages yet so I would be surprised to see graphics on them... I was testing the concept first, content later... Mostly making sure the site was at least visible...

Yes your right about the verbiage... I really can not sell 200% lower than list... I can sell for 10-20% of list... Just really it means I can buy some items for below mfg cost and offer them to the public for just over that...

All the items have a full description page with just that stuff... You need to click on the item or description...

Thanks for the feedback!

Freddie

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:56:47 -0400, Mike Graham scribed:

Thanks Mike! Your probably right on this as I recall the same error from building our website.. Don't close the table and it never serves it up... For NN 4+ anyway...

Appreciate the help!

Fred

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:28:14 -0700, Jon Anderson scribed:

Thanks Jon:

You are correct in that everyone does not have the latest wiz-bang browser and I need to fix the content to be compatible on all fronts.

I appreciate the feedback, and will try to suss out the problem...

Funny you mention eBay, as I am using the same storefront software that they use (Miva) and the company say's it is compatible with all browsers.

Investigation ongoing...

Thanks again,

Fred