Part P petition

I think they should make it stiffer,Andrew.(BG) Start with testing all the time served would be sparks out there.We only let subbies wire lights and plugs and run cables to but not connect to machines.One guy we use is not allowed to touch anything unless I have checked it is safe as he has shocked himself twice here and blew a finger off on another job.I opened up a five pin plug at the weekend that another approved spark had wired.He had Black-phase 1,Black-ph 2,Blue-ph 3 and Brown-neutral.And they wonder why I won`t let them into machine panels. Mark.

In message , " snipped-for-privacy@ems-fife.co.uk" writes concerning

Then it is up to you to start an alternative petition.

Insofar as the building regulations are concerned with domestic wiring the existing position is "...The number of relevant fatalities has more than doubled since its introduction [and this is] probably due to the use of dangerous temporary 'lash-ups' rather than safe fixed wiring thus avoiding the hassle and expense of complying with Part P. There is no evidence to indicate that there has ever been a problem with non-professionally installed fixed wiring."

Meanwhile, having very recently installed lighting in my wife's art studio, I am more than happy to sign .

The last thing we need is more petitions or rules and regulations for that matter. Mark

Just shows how crap the system is doesn't it. Needs revising

Charles

Whats part p

Is it something to do with diyers. and banning DIyers from putting in or extending their electrical installation

whats to stop you just ignoring it ...and just doing it yourself anyway .. they are never going to know its impossible to find out.

please explain .. then i can make my mind up weather to put my name to this petition ..

a petition ...that you read ...and your still not any the wiser, what it's going on about.!!!

who ever made this petition...if it is aimed at DIYers ... then it should be spelled out ... in simple terms ...weather it is about banning them.

All the best...mark

It is a new(ish) addition to the electrical regulations effectively preventing you from making additions or alterations to your own domestic wiring. If you 'just do it' then at the time you sell your house you may well have certification problems. To make it additionally difficult, new 'harmonised' wiring colours have been introduced to make it more obvious that changes have been made.

AWEM

I'm waiting for the incoming from our resident part P expert.

Greg ? you out there ? someone is trying to steal your bowl of rice, perhaps you need copyright on the part P reg's ?

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John Stevenson Nottingham, England.

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Anybody notice the 'big' petition there

the planned vehicle tracking and road pricing policy Over half a million sigs looks good against only 20k for he next highest :)

Nothing at all to stop you doing your own wiring if you don't mind breaking the law. The problem will come when you want to sell your property. The potential buyer's solicitor will want to see the buyers pack (another government interference in how folk live their lives)with the certificates to show that any wiring done since Jan 06 has been carried out by 'approved' sparkies or checked by 'approved' experts; the cable has a date stamp by the way.

So that nice new kitchen that's a major selling point must have a certificate for its sockets and without it the solicitor won't let the buyer touch your house.

I'll sign.

John B

I think that's been killed.

thankyou andrew but there is still nothing stopping you saying that the wiring etc ...was done before this new law came in.

unless its in a new extention .

signing petition now

still think the author should reword it ...so every one understands

all the best.mark

In article , mark writes

When I bought some wiring, socket boxes etc. in late 2005 (to finish off a wiring job before the regulations came into force) I noticed that they were all date stamped. So it may be easier than you think for big brother to know what you are doing (and more importantly, when you did it). When you sell your house, a wiring check will probably be required, and your sins may be visible.

David

On or around Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:36:14 -0000, "Andrew Mawson" enlightened us thusly:

signed and passed on to the shed.

This is pretty much what I and a few other (competent) people I know, predicted would happen. Signed. Martin

This is irrelevant to Part P - which only applies to domestic installations.

James

WHAT.... Our 3 phase Morphy Richards boils a litre of water in about 5 seconds... The snag is condensing it so we can get the water in the cups. Three phase in the domestic kitchen is a must, never had a load the Kenwood mixer couldn't handle, even if it had set....

Joules, pass me the 3 phase twist connectors...

....but only if you can get cable that isn't to the new spec and dated. Otherwise its a bit of a giveaway.

Regards, Tony

so what youre saying is we all should get a good stock in of the old red and black.

like so

100 mts of 2.5

100 mts of this

and so on ... are the sockets marked in some way .

All the best.mark

I couldn't possibly comment

Dunno.

Regards, Tony