...I heat it or put it in a solvent? Does the molecular weight decrease or
are the chains "slipping" past adjacent ones causing it to be fluid like?
When many polymers are exposed to UV, I understand that the radiation breaks
the long molecular chains. I heard the polymers can't be recycled because
they have been degraded. I take it that heating the polymer does not repair
the damage?
Thanks for helping this layman to understand.
-S
When heating (or radiating) basically what happens is that polymer
chains scisson (are cut) due to energy provided by the heat. In melt
processing the original molecular weight of the raw material always
significantly decreases. This leads to poorer mechanical properties.
Dissolving the polymer to a decent solvent shouldn't necesseraly
decrease the molecular weight.
Anyway, that's the reason why thermoplastic polymers cannot be recycled
in such a way that they could be reprocessed several times. On the
other hand plastics are mostly manufactured from the by-products of the
petrochemical industry. Common plastics such as polyethylene and
polypropylene are excellent and clean fuel when burned to gain energy.
Best way to recycle polymers is to burn them in suitable facilities.
-Petrus
Thanks for your response. Very interesting!
So, if solvents could be used in the recycling process, the loss of
molecular weight would not be a problem. I would imagine that emissions from
using solvents would be a big problem.
I agree with the burning. I can't believe how we dump trash in landfills
where it does not degrade. I wonder if the potential energy in the plastics
make it worth sorting, hauling and incinerating in an equipped power
producing facility? What other polymers are / are not desirable for
incineration? I'm pretty sure PVC is not due to the chlorine in it.
-S
Thanks for your response. Very interesting!
So, if solvents could be used in the recycling process, the loss of
molecular weight would not be a problem. I would imagine that emissions from
using solvents would be a big problem.
I agree with the burning. I can't believe how we dump trash in landfills
where it does not degrade. I wonder if the potential energy in the plastics
make it worth sorting, hauling and incinerating in an equipped power
producing facility? What other polymers are / are not desirable for
incineration? I'm pretty sure PVC is not due to the chlorine in it.
-S
While all plastics are somewhat sensitive to heat. Some plastics are more
sensitive to than others. PVC is very sensitive and must be heavily
stabilized in order to be processed. Polyethylene is relatively insensative
and requires only a around 0.1% of antioxidants for stable processing. That
said, even PVC can and is recycled. The reason that more is not is simple
economics. Even at today's "high" prices, in most cases the cost of virigin
plastic (i.e. plastics that have not been processed) is less than cost of
collecting, sorting and cleaning post consumer recycle plastics. Most
plastics that are recycled are typically recycled in house - the scrap and
trim form extrusion or molding processes are ground up and blended back into
the process at levels between 10-20%. Or this scrap or trim is sold to a
broker who then grinds and sells the material as a wide spec product.
This is way most governments have to institute a minimal level of recycled
content into plastics parts. It's just not economical. That said, there
are some companies that have made it economical, e.g. Trex. In order to do
so, they typically deal with a limited set of selected recycle suppliers who
supply them realtively clean source of one particlar plastic. In Trex's
case they take recycled polyethylene bags and bottles and use them as the
polymer for their plastic/wood composite lumber. However, Trex is more the
exception than the rule.
Incinerating plastics for fuel is a very good idea. However, most
muncipalities are reluctant to pursue the concept due to sniping from
environmentalists.
Larry Effler
Thank you Larry for bringing us detailed knowlidge of plastics
recycling. In my opinion enviromentalists sniping about burning
plastics for fuel are way out of track. I consider myself an
enviromentalist of some sort. I also know that clean and safe burning
facilities for municipal waste can and have been constructed. By
regulations that oppose these facilities we are just biting our own
legs off. By burning waste we would gain energy and reduce the amount
of environmental problems created by the landfills that keep growing
and growing...
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