Hi Gary, I did some searching on the internet, and it is indeed hard to
find the right kind of devices. They seem quite expensive. But I did
find a link that seems appropriate.
The Touch Turner sounded like a fair prospect. Are you familiar with
So perhaps you might want to tell us which turner you have, and what
problems it has. Key to making something which would work for you, it
would help us if we knew your abilities. I've seen turners which are
just something like a pencil eraser on a stick worn like a hat, that
allows you to use your neck and head to "push" the page over. Are you
looking for something like that, or sip and puff, or what. What works
well for you now? How did you write your post on the internet?
Randy M. Dumse
Caution: Objects in mirror are more confused than they appear.
I am curious also about the environment you will be using the page turner
in? Is wind going to be a factor? Have you found that books have different
page thickness and stiffness problems?
Is it preferable for the page turner device to also hold the book and
what does the book holder or page turner need to be attached to?
I agree with the previous poster Randy M. Dumse that we could help a lot
better if you could tell us what you can do, what you have now, what you
have tried, and what problems you have had with items you have used. What
would be ideal and then we can parse it down from there.
I have lots of ideas but what would work for you is what is most important.
Don't be bashful and let us know. Most of us like a good challenge!
Handling the pages is a tricky problem sometimes even without any
disability. In particular, opening the pages far enough to read, contending
with the spine of the book which seeks to close can be a real issue, as is
separating 'stuck' pages. Trying to handle these problems right in front of
your face will make things harder.
One approach for ideas might be to look at the systems used by libraries for
scanning books. With the right sort of optics it is only necessary to open
the book a little before scanning the pages, which reduces problems with a
stiff spine - generally making page handling somewhat simpler. You could
scan pages in real time, or possibly scan a book offline - particularly
useful if scanning is slow. Of course, once it is scanned it can be read or
re-read at your leisure. Note also that the book could be scanned as a bit
image (picture, basically), or using OCR converted into text which could be
read out by a suitable vocoder.
I suspect that the ideal approach is to remove the need for the
handicapped inividual to deal with the page turner. This way, the
system doesn't need to be as robust, and deal with the difficulties you
If someone else scans the book, then the handicapped individual can
read the scanned version from a computer which would be MUCH more
reliable that any mechanical system.
Many newspapers and magazines have an electronic format which you can
subscribe to. Some are free. I wonder what percentage of new books are
also available electronically?
1. I am 30 and have muscular dystrophy and can't use my arms at all. I can
use my fingers to some degree on my right hand, but can't move my hands at
I drive an electric wheelchair with a mini joystick that is very easy to
move with my thumb
and index finger.
2. I use my automatic page Turner in an indoor environment. I can read
books and magazines up to about 2 inches thick. It is easier for the page
to turn book pages, rather than slippery magazine pages.
3. The problem I had with my current page Turner is that the small joystick
that came with
it is too stiff for me to push in any direction. The other optional methods
to control the page Turner
do not seem very efficient to use the page Turner effectively.
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:52:45 GMT, "Gary Cabatingan"
The below quote indicates that there are ways beyond the joystick
to control the unit. You might want to request more info on these
gizmos from the maker to find out just how these interface with
"It can be operated with a variety of multiple-switch assemblies
or optionally with a visual scanner and any single switch. And,
it can be run by most environmental control units."
Gary, I hate to say this, but I think the solution is going to require
that you find someone who is near you who can come over and see your
problems and talk with you about what you feel would work for you.
I looked at the Web site you listed and the device you use. I assume from
what you said that you use the "joystick" control. I noticed that the
joystick requires that at times you be able to "twist" the joystick. Am
I right that this might be part of the problem with using this joystick?
You also mentioned that the spring pressure is too hard, or at least that
is what I think you meant. That might be something easily changed.
I live in Frederick, Maryland, US. If that is near you, let me know.
I would be interested in at least looking at the problem and talking with
you to see if there is anything we could do to make it work easier.
Of course, I don't do this for a living, I don't have any canned answers,
I like a good challenge, and therefore I do it for fun. I have a workshop
and lots of ideas, I'm 60 years old, and I'm an engineer type with a very
broad range of experience. Maybe there is a simple solution(?)
I am trying to figure out a way to send you my personal email address,
but can't think of one right now. I don't want to give it out on the
newsgroup and get spammed to death! I will try a sample email to
firstname.lastname@example.org and if it goes through, reply to my personal email
and I will ask more questions and investigate more answers.
If my personal email does not go through, I will contact you again
on this newsgroup in a couple of days.
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