You could try the Dontronics Raver board. It'll handle a bunch of the
chips and is dead simple to use with AVR's. To use other AVR chips,
just plug in SIMM cards for them and you're good to go. There aren't
any USB solutions yet, I'm not holding my breath, the PeeCee parallel
port was defunct years ago and it's STILL on the darn machines!
: I am a programmer by trade, and would like to get into robotics, and
: would like to start by getting a AVR and programming some lights, and
: adding some sensors, etc. I plan to use gcc using C/C++, would like
: to program via usb, but parellel is fine. Is a programmer the same as
: a development board? It would be nice to be nice not to have to have 2
: boards. Any suggestions would be
* Dennis Clark email@example.com www.techtoystoday.com *
Thats not a programmer but a development board.
Has a builtin isp programmer.
The futurlec boards are quite good.
Just make sure to install the parallel port driver if using
Recommend to get the atmega board or 8535 as the newer atmegas can
be used instead of the supplied chip
for both the atmega and at90s8535 boards can drop in
atmega8535 or atmega16 or atmega32
No you can't.
you still need a programmer unless you just plan to use the bootloader.
see the just released user guide
see page 15 In the programming section
"In addition to using the pre-programmed bootloader with AVR Studio, the ATmega169
on the AVR Butterfly can be programmed using SPI, High-voltage Parallel Programming
and the JTAG interface.
To program the ATmega169 using ISP Programming mode, connect a 6-wire cable
between the ISP6PIN connector on the STK500 board and J403 the ISP connector on
the AVR Butterfly as shown in Figure 3-2. This device can be programmed using the
Serial Programming mode in the AVR Studio4 STK500 software. Instead of soldering in
a ISP-header, one can make contact just by pressing the header to the footprint. Make
sure that pin 1 on the STK500 match with pin 1 on the AVR Butterfly. See Figure 3-3 for
the pinout of the ISP Connector.
Do not use the AVRISP for In-System Programming, unless if the kit is powered
from an external power source.
It is possible to program the ATmega169 through the High-voltage Parallel Programming
interface. However this requires to move two resistors on the PCB. High-voltage
Parallel Programming is only meant to be used in the worst case scenario, where both
SPI and the JTAG interface are disabled."
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:51:29 -0400, Richard F. Man wrote:
It does for sure. I have my Butterfly here in front of me and it has the
6 pin ISP header, which brings out MISO, MOSI, SCK, /RESET, and GND. All
he has to do is make a cable and connect those lines to the parallel port,
load up AVRDUDE (or other programming software), and he can download
programs to it, set fuse bits, etc, etc. In this case, the PC is the
BTW, I believe the STK200 and STK300 dongles, while they plug into the PC
parallel port, use serial ISP to program the chip.
JTAG is also available on the Butterfly, but that does require a seperate
programmer. It's well worth the $300, though, IMO.
Brian Dean, firstname.lastname@example.org
BDMICRO - Maker of the MAVRIC ATmega128 Dev Board
Should be finally getting the butterflies I ordered tomorrow
from the local distributor.
Got one from the seminar.
No word when digikey will be shipping.
Don't know about using non-stk500 isp.
Just have to make sure you have a power source
other than the battery.
The full user guide is up on atmel now.
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