That is irrelevant, they still pioneered the industry and popularised home computing by making it accessable to everyone at a(then) reasonable cost.
Just because Apple managed to (barely) survive doesn't mean they get to rewrite the history books.
That is irrelevant, they still pioneered the industry and popularised home computing by making it accessable to everyone at a(then) reasonable cost.
Just because Apple managed to (barely) survive doesn't mean they get to rewrite the history books.
Actually they do.
IIRC they didn't license it, Xerox didn't patent their ideas.
Well, they are alive and kicking at ! :-)
(New) Commodore 64, VIC models and Amiga, and they run (MS-)Windows
*and* Linux (Commodore OS), and 'of course' legacy Commodore software and games.IOW, old systems never die!
Dombo wrote
icon and mouse based personal
Thats a lie.
Only very minimally, like how windows were resized and moved.
Commercially successful, anyway.
Have fun explaining why Xerox sued Apple over stealing the GUI.
Frank Slootweg wrote
More like very feebly twitching rather than alive and kicking.
Some do.
Well, they were actually *revived*. The Commodore brand had been dormant for many years and then it was revived, resulting in the current product line.
But of course their volume is nothing compared to PCs/Windows, Apple, etc.. But that's not neccessarily a bad thing. Think, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc.! :-)
Commercialy sure, but it's often amazing how long some hobbyists keep systems alive and still use and change/expand them. (For example there was a recent thread in comp.os.msdos.misc about "Running (Free)DOS from ROM" on a IBM PC-XT (compatible) no less, we have very active MSX clubs/ forums, etc.)
Frank Slootweg wrote
Not really in the commercial sense.
Not really in the commercial sense.
Which wont fly, you watch.
Because you can run C64 emulators etc on almost anything you want.
And they wont be around for long, you watch.
All steaming turds on wheels.
Doesnt amaze me.
Hardly any do that last.
In spades with the pre personal computer sense.
forums, etc.)
And hordes of other stuff doesnt.
Checking, it wasn't a license per se -- it was a stake in Apple.
Managed to get on the net last week with a Toshiba lappie Win98 32MB RAM P2
300Mhz. Not a real pleasant experience but don't tell Wilkie all the Tote sites worked, but M$ did not.
Just had a look at the website. What do you think the chances are of this company surviving?
Frenton wrote
a distribution channel) it inspired
Zero, nada, zlitch. Wota packa terminal fuckwits.
The Vic all-in-one keyboard unit is an interesting idea but you would still need a monitor, so you might as well have a laptop. Would be a bitch if the keyboard was damaged.
I give it another year before the guy's accountants tell him to pull the plug.
Frenton wrote
products out, which worked very well.
for a distribution channel) it inspired
software and games.
Nope, the world's moved on. I use a Logitech K800 myself.
Or a decent modern desktop with a K800.
Yep, thats why the K800 route leaves it for dead.
I doubt it will even last that long now that the clowns have been allowed to completely implode the entire world financial system, again.
Well, Commodore is 'dying' since 1994, but isn't dead and, as I said, revived in 2010, so what the chances are of it surviving, is anyone's guess.
But in any case, the *brand name* is still worth quite a bit, so even if the instance dies, the brand might very well survive/revive, as it already did a half dozen or so times before.
The Commodore brand name is like a turd that just won't flush.
I've still got my (fully functional) Vic20.. :)
The history is already written.
Does not stop folk rewriting it, like saying Gough was good for Australia.
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