Steve Jobs passed away.

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Never owned an Apple device in my life. But they were pioneers in windows, icon and mouse based personal computing, arguably the most significant development in personal computing history.
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Think Xerox. Think Apple stole the "look & feel".
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A bit before my time, but Apple was the first to make a commercially successful product. We're talking about which products had the reach to users. Apple were the ones who achieved this.
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Exactly! As SG1 said, they stole it and made it "successful". And then Microsoft stole it again and made it even more "successful". And then Microsoft even stole/extorted the name "Windows" from those who used it before them. What was your point again!? :-(
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:20:26 +0800 you wrote:

Tandy ("Radio Shack") at that time also had some good (for the times) products out, which worked very well.
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A great little machine which I used to learn to write BASIC and Assembler programs plus control some electronic devices.
I chose the Amiga over the Apple product because the Amiga could be hacked.
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Polly the Parrott wrote:

When Commodore showed the Commodore PET to Tandy (Commodore was looking for a distribution channel) it inspired Tandy to build and market their own line of computers.
They dominated the market early on, Apple didn't get a look in.
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Clocky wrote:

Indeed - But where are they now?
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Andy wrote:

That is irrelevant, they still pioneered the industry and popularised home computing by making it accessable to everyone at a(then) reasonable cost.
Just because Apple managed to (barely) survive doesn't mean they get to rewrite the history books.
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Op 09-Oct-11 8:09, Clocky schreef:

Actually they do.
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Dombo wrote:

The history is already written.
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Does not stop folk rewriting it, like saying Gough was good for Australia.
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SG1 wrote:

The truth remains. Only the fanbois believe their spin.
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Op 21-Oct-11 12:05, Clocky schreef:

And people with only superficial interest in computing history.
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Well, they are alive and kicking at <http://www.commodoreusa.net ! :-)
(New) Commodore 64, VIC models and Amiga, and they run (MS-)Windows *and* Linux (Commodore OS), and 'of course' legacy Commodore software and games.
IOW, old systems never die!
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Frank Slootweg wrote

More like very feebly twitching rather than alive and kicking.

Some do.
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Well, they were actually *revived*. The Commodore brand had been dormant for many years and then it was revived, resulting in the current product line.
But of course their volume is nothing compared to PCs/Windows, Apple, etc.. But that's not neccessarily a bad thing. Think, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc.! :-)

Commercialy sure, but it's often amazing how long some hobbyists keep systems alive and still use and change/expand them. (For example there was a recent thread in comp.os.msdos.misc about "Running (Free)DOS from ROM" on a IBM PC-XT (compatible) no less, we have very active MSX clubs/ forums, etc.)
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Frank Slootweg wrote

Not really in the commercial sense.

Not really in the commercial sense.

Which wont fly, you watch.
Because you can run C64 emulators etc on almost anything you want.

And they wont be around for long, you watch.

All steaming turds on wheels.

Doesnt amaze me.

Hardly any do that last.
In spades with the pre personal computer sense.

And hordes of other stuff doesnt.
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Frank Slootweg wrote:

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Managed to get on the net last week with a Toshiba lappie Win98 32MB RAM P2 300Mhz. Not a real pleasant experience but don't tell Wilkie all the Tote sites worked, but M$ did not.

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