Then I got exactly what I wanted, twice, by chance?
Both would have zippered or worse (plastic chute) if I would have followed
the instructions exactly. Interesting. I have three more of the same
vintage E18W-10's left. Gonna have to see how they behave.
Hogwash! I fly lots of AT motors and have found their delays to be very
reliable. I've also seen plenty of AT motors flown by others without
having any delay problems.
This is just another example of Jerry making up crap just to slam a
In article firstname.lastname@example.org,
email@example.com at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote on 6/8/05 2:15 PM:
Thanks for the feedback Ray!
Jerry, consider this a challenge. Please stop badmouthing AeroTech/RCS and
start speaking positive things. You might be pleased and surprised at the
FYI, The product being produced by the Cedar City facility and crew is
superb. Warranty issues are currently running less than 1% for AeroTech
products...actually closer to 0.1%. Also, most dealer orders are being
filled within 1-2 weeks, many in just a few days.
You too huh? :-) I love QC stats.
Anthony J. Cesaroni
Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
(941) 360-3100 x101 Sarasota
(410) 571-8292 Annapolis
wrote on 6/8/05 2:15 PM:
It is not slamming to discuss well known "anecdotal" evidence. I respect
Gary's reporting of his REPORTED reliability figures. But I know as well
as anyone many defects are simply not reported.
Well, except on rmr.
Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to: email@example.com>
It IS slamming when you allege that "bonus delays" are "common",
despite the fact that you're the only one who thinks they are common.
No one else so far has backed that claim. It's also slamming when you
falsely assert that a manufacturer is violating NFPA regs just because
one person reported slow ignition of an old motor.
I'm not talking about what AT reports, I'm talking about what I've
witnessed and what other flyers have witnessed. I've seen no evidence
to support your claim that bonus delays are "common", and no one but
you seems to be claiming it.
No, it is NOT true. You have failed to produce a shred of evidence
showing that NFPA regulates the speed at which a motor comes up to
pressure after it has been ignited. You can't, because there is no such
reg. All you've done is quote the code regulating launch systems and
On top of that, you've also conveniently ignored the fact that any
manufacturer's motor could experience a slow ignition due to age, a
weak igniter, a misplaced igniter, or other factors. I've witnessed
more than one occasion where your own motors have been slow coming up
to pressure -- another fact you casually dismiss in your hypocritical
attempt to badmouth AT.
What he said. I've had a handful of "un-bonus" delays, all on 38mm WL
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