AP can detonate despite what all of us think.

Nov 17, 2006 50 Replies

I keep seeing posts that say APCP can not detonate. Well you're all wrong. It can. You just have to get it in large enough quantities to sustain a shock wave. Rule of thum is motors over 60" dia and several tons are large enouph to do just that. Heck, just for grins here is a link that shows AP can detonate.



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The plant exploding is The Pepcon Rocket Fuel (ammonium perchlorate) in Henderson, Nevada. There was a fire in the plant. while they were evacuating the fire super heated the stock pile of AP. The video shows the rest. It is obviously a detonation. You can see the blast wave go out for miles.



KT


AP and APCP are two very different things.

-- Roger

Duh,

That is AP powder not "Ammonium Perchlorate Composite Propellent" Sure it can explode but so can coal dust and grain dust. Try and get a pile of APCP grains to explode. Big fire, but it won't detonate.

Read the whole thing. Not just what you copied about the Pepcon Factory.

KT

AP is an oxidizer. I don't see how it can explode by itself.

I seem to recall that one AP plant explosion was fueled in part by the asphalt underneath the AP and in another case a natural gas pipeline under a pile of AP.

I might be remembering things incorectly.

Brian Elfert

You also did not read the whole email. You just saw the AP part but not the APCP comment above it.

kt

If there is enough energy input and there is enough of it can detonate by itself.

KT

Forget it Bob, the guy can't make that distinction. Don't know why but he can't.

Why doesn't any one read the whole email! All of you can't get past the just AP and the video of the AP plant. Just for refreshersh here it is again.....

I keep seeing posts that say APCP can not detonate. Well you're all wrong. It can. You just have to get it in large enough quantities to sustain a shock wave. Rule of thum is motors over 60" dia and several tons are large enouph to do just that.

No more Duhs and comments about AP and APCP are not the same.

KT

Read this PDF on the explosion then comeback. But I doubt you will admit you're wrong.

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Ammonium Perchlorate powder IS NOT Ammonium Perchlorate Composite Propellant. AP can explode under apropriate conditions. The report talks about the exploding of the plastic storage drums of AP POWDER.

I give up. You are all as stuborn as I, ha ha. I work at a company that makes space boosters and deal with safety issues on a regular basis. Our data shows exactly what I have told all of you.

Signing off on this one for good....

KT

And those space boosters with apcp is not the same apcp that we use. Isn't RDX(a known explosive) used in those boosters?

Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

Your email was an assertion with a fake. You asserted that a motor could deonate, with no proof; then you posted "proof" about raw ap.

So lets split the posting into two parts. Show us the detonation of the 60" motor.

O.K.

I stand corrected. Doctor up APCP with nasty stuff and maybe it can explode. Aerotech been using RDX yet? :-)

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