assessment of the vote on perm. certs.

Right.

Vote has been taken get onto the next proposal as this one has been voted on and rejected. Don

Once again, you are forgetting that ATF is only one part of the regulatory picture. User certs won't get you out of a LEUP, but they do get you out of hassles with CPSC and state/local fire authorities.

I'd much rather have the current system then something produced and managed by the government, which would undoubtably be far more expensive, inconvenient, and restrictive.

As compared to your chant "Two (TRA mostly, NAR sometimes) legs bad, four (JI, an all who agree with you) legs good."

That claim is NOT supported by any fact or experience.