book ripoff

Thanks for the info and pdf. Nonr of us should pay a price for knowledge and resources that is unreasonable. I always priced my software and documentation so anyone could afford it. That ROL went along with this is disappointing. Lets hope they can pressure the source.

shockwaveriderz wrote:

Is it a real "book"... ya know, like with paper pages, and covers?

That alone sometimes is worth the price if you're collecting..

Tod "Have the PDF somewhere on my network" Hilty

I'm the poor sucker. I have the PDF. I hate reading on the computer. the entire book is 800+ pages. it will cost me more than $50 to print it and bind it.

by the way, ALL of the "books" available from that publisher are available > There is a certain company who I shall not name that is selling a book > titled:

"mr. expert hacker" ? I have no idea what that is supposed to mean ..

I can print that .pdf on my printer at 1200 dpi double sided on 25 pieces of paper... take a hole puncher, and throw it a binder for $5.00......

shockie B)

Mark E. Hamilton NAR #48641-SR ARSA #418

oops my bad... 716/2 = 358 double sided pages is what I meant to say.... still a pack of printer paper with a ream of 500 sheets costs < $10...

shockie B)

costs like about 3 dollars here for a 500 sheet of A4 paper...

-- TAI FU

If you also take into account how much it costs to run your printer (ink and toner are actually most of the cost of a printout, not paper) and how much time it takes to do all that, compare it to what your time is worth (that's up to you), and what the reduced quality of a ring binder vs cloth- or perfect-binding is worth to you ---- unless you cook fries for a living, a real copy of a book sounds pretty good to me.

Roy nar12605

His time is worth nothing, or less, and he sees conspiracy everywhere and rushes to post it to rmr.

That's seems vaguely familiar, oh wait, that's right, it was you.

jerry, you have described yourself to a tee.

That should be in the FAQs! 8-)

Poor Shockie.

well at least I don't have a 25 year documented history of lying,stealing and cheating people in the hobby.... I'm surprised somebody hasn't popped a cap in your ass yet...

shockie B)

it's a deal! I'll send you $5, you send me a nice printed copy in a binder. email me your postal address. thanks, Cliff

Sorry, I'm with Shocky on this one. $50 for printing a book is way too much. Ripoff Deluxe.

Don't forget the cost of the printer cartridge, which can be pretty hefty. I bet you'd use up at least one cartridge printing out 358 double-sided pages.

Don't forget the cost of the printer cartridge, which can be pretty hefty. I bet you'd use up at least one cartridge printing out 358 double-sided pages.

how much would you charge to print it and bind it then?

It would probably cost $30 in ink if you have to relpace it

Cliff Sojourner wrote:

Yep. On a cost-per-page basis, inkjet printers are about as expensive as they come. Laser printers are significantly cheaper.

I seem to recall when someone ran some calculations years ago (ink hasn't gotten any cheaper since then; if anything, it's MORE epensive), inkjets were in the $0.05 - $0.07 per page range for single-sided copy.

Let's call it a nickle a page. $0.05 * 358 * 2 = $35.80. Add in the $10 for binding and suddenly $50 isn't so out of line.

-Kevin