Looking for LDRS room share

OK, I got me a room at the Days In in geneseo. Of course, now I'm open to sharing the room to cut *my* expenses. It's got an extra bed that I don't need.

Peter Alway

Saturn Press PO Box 3709 Ann Arbor, MI 48106-3709

But, where do your rockets sleep? ;)

If you go to a rocket launch, you really ought to fly stuff. Even if it isn't HPR.

What you really need is a BFR with "BUY MY BOOK" stenciled down the side of it. Of course it would have to be a scale model of something...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Maybe, but at LDRS the price to fly a rocket includes BOTH an abusive flight fee AND the opportunity to stand in line for HOURS.

While standing near the modal impact distance of course :)

Some of us enjoy going to launches just to watch and visit with vendors and such.

I will be at LDRS, but I'm not bringing any rockets. I build a very small number of very large rockets. My latest creation isn't done yet and my previous rocket crashed big time in Nebraska. The only flyable rocket I have is a spool and I'm not going to pay $60 or whatever to launch it at LDRS.

Brian Elfert

Point!

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I thought people would jump at the chance to share a hotel room with Peter Alway......it's like sleeping with a celebrity!! -- Richard "why LDRS gotta cost so much? It discouraged me from going" Hickok

Regarding "sleeping with a celebrity", I'm sorry, but the idea of sleeping WITH Peter Alway just doesn't do anything for me. And I'm quite sure that doesn't offend or upset Peter in the least.... 8-}

As far as LDRS "costing so much it discouraged me", in the grand scheme, the fliers fee is insignificant when I figure gas to get there, food for the family on the road for a week, hotels, etc. It's cheaper than shorter events I've attended for other hobby organizations.

Would I PREFER to pay less? You betcha. It'd leave more money for rockets. But if I have to choose between two LDRS-type rocketry events, one costs $50 and one costs $100, the cost difference isn't going to be what decides it for me. Location, the hosting club and where my friends are will.

-Kevin

That is a straw man arguement spoken like a true TRA webmaster.

It also should not cost more than it costs. TO ENCOURAGE MORE FOLKS TO ATTEND!!

Bi-polar moronic thinking leaving out the third PREFERABLE option. Charge actual cost and not one penny more and make all "promotional expenses" purely OPTIONAL.

You don't _know_ what it costs to host an LDRS at that site.

No. I know how much it costs to host DOZENS of launches, some far bigger than LDRS.

Jerry

Jerry replied:

Thank you for admitting that you know nothing about the costs of holding a launch at that site.

You've never held a launch AS big as LDRS, much less anything bigger. Also, even the launches you once held at Lucerne were not encumbered by the BLM fees that would now be required there.

False. They are STILL not required where I held it.

As usual the rest of what you say is BS.

Jerry

Jerry replied:

What, you mean the private property where the landowner said he'd never heard of you?

Then prove it. Name one launch you held that had greater attendance than LDRS, and provide a reliable, verifiable source for the head count. You can't. We've been through this before.

Why is that?

I looked on Google to see if I could just post a link to show you a liar, but alas, I must simply refer you to Gary Rosenfield as my witness as to this being false. I am sure he is at LDRS as we speak and one of your many buddies can ask him (again) directly.

But post the answer so it is then searchable in the future and he need not be bothered again.

Jerry

Gary says you are a pathological liar and nothing you say should be regarded as the truth.

Go ahead, post a copy of the letter giving you permission to fly rockets from private property, that you do not own!

Well now I know why I had trouble getting any takers!

Unfortunately, I was doing this as a rather last-minute thing, and it wasn't until THursday AM that I was finally able to get through to the LDRS website. Looking at all the costs, including lodging, transportation, and yes, the $150 late vendor fee, I decided to stay home and work on my 2004 supplement and

Now, I can see that a $150 vendor fee (which would have been just $75 if I had planned ahead) is reasonable for a vendor who fills a 30-foot stretch of real estate with $100+ items, including expensive consumables that the customer has to replenish. However, I sell of a card table, my most expensive item is a $35 book, and I'm lucky to gross $1000 for the weekend. So yes, that fee made me look hard at costs--$275 hotel, $200 mileage, $150 vendor fee =$625-- vs expected income--$1000 gross plus or minus an indeterminate amount. That;s not even counting what the merchandise cost me in the first place.

Rationally, that vendor fee is only a quarter of the expense side of the equation (ok, it's an inequality, but I'm using the figure of speech, not the mathematical term), but it made me look much more critically at the descision to go.

Peter Alway

Saturn Press PO Box 3709 Ann Arbor, MI 48106-3709

But Jerry, if they lower the cost, more people would attend. Then the lines would be even longer. Both to fly and to use the porta-potties.

BTW, NEVER use the porta-potty with wires leading back to the LCO.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!