The MVC started a few weeks ago. I haven't gotten mine yet either.
Try contacting David & see what he says. I'll email you his address.
On 22 Jul 2006 16:23:31 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
The MVC is like what is on the back of your credit card.
From what I understand, you needed to get it in person at LDRS, or you will
get it when your membership card is re-sent out to you at your renew time.
Since the real use of MVC will be after re-new of membership, this should
cause no hardship.
Troj (Kevin) is the webmaster of the TRA website, and part of the TRA IT
committee. He posts here sometimes, and might see your post, but you may
want to contact him directly (about->contacts, bottom of the page)
I'm sure that he'll be able to point you in the right direction, and works
he closely with Dave Wilkins (who's in Australia and hosts the TRA list).
The way I understand it, is that "MVC" is a unique ID for each member (in
addition to their public TRA number) that's just been put into place to
allow a bunch of things, like automated "joining" of the TRA list, and the
ability to edit your own profile (address, phone #, email address, etc).
I think they just started handing out MVC's at LDRS, so it might have some
bumps for new members, but I'm sure Troj can help.
Woody pretty much got it right.
The MVCs were supposed to be appearing on membership cards for several
months in anticipation of this stuff, but they haven't been.
For folks who were at LDRS, and who had their cards with them, they had
the opportunity to obtain their MVCs by requesting them at registration.
As folks renew, they SHOULD be seeing the MVC on their membership card;
if you receive a card from now, going forward, and it doesn't have an
MVC, please let me know.
For those whose renewal isn't up for a while, David Wilkins is the one
you need to contact to get your MVC.
Fred, currently the members only site contains the pdfs of the tra reports.
the MVS is like a CVS code on the back of your credit card.
I understand it will be used to finally allow electronic voting.
If we are to embrace electronic voting and have TRA stand up to an audit
from those who might cry rigged, electronic foul,
then we need security standard accepted methods of two factor ID.
something you know, your member number, your email address and your
and something you only got physically, like the MVC code, in person or via
that can allow TRA to say they follow accepted security standards for
You mention a better way, I would encourage you to let David know a better
way, and maybe he can get them out quicker
I'm not complaining about the use of the process; I understand the mvs
code purpose and future intended use. My complaint is simple: TRA has
implemented a new process but not everyone is included yet. My
membership was renewed in April or March and I don't have the mvc code.
Will I get it next year?? Hell, someone get of the dime and mail them
out or send it through email. I don't think that is to much to ask. If
the problem is TRA HQ, put a fire under their a$$ or get someone else to
do the job. After all HQ is a paid position.
BTW, who are you anyway
Cranny Dane wrote:
If you had a clue, and didn't have a hard on for TRA, you know that the
numbers were first issued at LDRS. It's not a HPR type of thing, it's more
that "it takes time" (like a couple months) for this to be distributed...
Not the best way however, as I don't think I'll need to renew until
November, so that would be a long time to get a MVC.
I'm sensing that there was a problem with getting the info on the member's
new cards, but the second problem is that others (renewing members) may have
to wait for 11 months or so, once the MVC does get included.
Maybe this is for the TRA list server, but maybe not, if people are having a
problem joining it, but, you might need to gain access to the encrypted
list, as a member if the IT committee. Most of the members are in the US,
and there might be a better chance that you know some of the people
requesting a MVC than David, speeding the verification process. I'll help
in any way I can to, as I know a bunch of the AZ fliers, both by sight, as
well as by an email address in a request for a MVC.
As another alternative, it "might" make sense that active members are sent a
simple bulk mail post card (with minimal information, as it is a post card)
that says - here is vour MVC, and when used with your membership number (one
of this items NOT included on the post card), you'll be able to access the
member only online resources.
This is better than waiting for 12 months for all members to get a new
membership card. Again, if I can help, let me know.
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