the key to understanding 2001 isn't the book which was written after the movie, but the short story kubrick read that inspired it. the stor is called the sentinnel and along with the star are the two best early clarke stories. sadly, clarke got into the whole rama sickness. the last book in that series is just awfull.
It was the first movie to point out that when you get right down to it, space travel is godawful boring. Unless you run into aliens, something blows up, or one of the crew (or ship's computer) goes crazy, nothing much really happens for months at a time. Unfortunately, inflicting the Discovery's crew's boredom on the audience wasn't much of a box office draw.
...which brings me to the directors cut of Das Boot, which I just picked up. The whole thing is a two-sided DVD and the movie is about four hours long, illustrating the long stretches of bordom between engagements. There's a whole depth charging sequence which was also cut from the theater release. Most of the directors footage has been added to the first half of the film.
As a whole, it's the only directors cut movie that I've ever seen where the new cut is better than the original - they took the best submarine flick of all time and made it even better.
Yup. I prefer it in German with subtitles - and even then, I noticed that the new version has some "politically correct" leanings in the English subtitles. Like when they have the captian saying "you have to have good people" vice "you have to have good men" as really would be more correct to the period. The theater release version is sutitled per the latter, if I recall.
In the directors cut DVD you can actually select dubbing/subtitles in any combnation of four or five different languages...but listening to the dialog in German is really the only way to watch it.
Greatest submarine flick of all time. My favorite thing about it is that it reflects the feeling of just how small the boats were, unlike all the Hollywood garbage.
Take a wild guess what they are running on AMC at the moment? They just dropped anchor in Vigo, Spain.
The movie worked particularly well at the theater due to the darkness of the place; you felt like you were right down in the sub with them.
I think our subs (designed to engage in long range patrols in the Pacific) were probably a lot more comfortable than the Type VII U-boat shown in the movie. I imagine even the Type IX U-boats were probably a step up in comfort, as they too were designed for long range. I once read a description of the German U-boat design philosophy which stated that the submarine was designed entirely as a piece of machinery inside of which the crew had to find some way to live. The movie sure makes it look like that, doesn't it? I have the Revell cutaway model of a Type XXI sub, and they did a lot better job on that one than they did on their Type VII kit. Of course, if you want a detailed Type VII model, and have a whole lot of money burning a hole in your pocket, then it is time for you also to drop anchor in Spain:
of course you need crew:
someplace to put the seven-foot-long thing. I note they also make crew for the 1/72 scale Revell one. Whoops, now they're sinking again.... That Gibraltar run went about as well as they suspected it would. :-)
Most of the added footage in the directors cut is before Vigo. And it really adds something, IMO.
Yeah...hadn't thought about that, but I did turn off all the lights and run the sound through my stereo when I watched it.
Yeah - I've been aboard the U-505 in Chicago, so I have a first hand perspectve on just how tiny the boats were...one of the experiences that was eliminated by cutting holes in the sides of the boat for public access, IMO. I've got a chunk of U-505's hull around, somewhere...
Yeah - I'd LOVE to get my hands on that kit...and there's a German company that makes a REALLY excellent R/C one that I wouldn't mind having. Found a link on a fluke once and looks like I faild to bookmark it...:(
The first (added) depth charging sequence in the directors cut really helped set the mood for the rest of the film. Can't believe they cut it for the theater.
No, but I've seen that one and it's pretty nice too. This one was from a German manufacturer - not Robbe - and it was nicely complete (VERY nicely molded) and accurate. And I think it was also 1/32, but it may even have been a bit larger. Very nice kit...and pricey.
'll bet that U-boat crew wouldn't have had a clue what to do if a giant octopus attacked their sub, much less if the Van Allen Belt caught fire, and icebergs started sinking onto them! :-) But since this is model building newsgroup, here's two neat model submarine links:
this, which is about the coolest model sub in the world: