OT US guy who got depapped.

Is it just me or is there something seriously wrong with folks trawling the net for this video, and then advertising that they had done so? I thought rubber neckers at road accidents were bad enough.......

I suppose we could always submit to the Islamofascists. Peace at any price and all that, you know.....

I for one don't know. I get most of my current events coverage from the blogosphere these days. There's a lot more variety to choose from and most blogs are up front about any inherent bias.

someone at work found it and downloaded it, i didnt intend to or even know where to find it.

Gasp! You mean the American people should actually learn what the *enemy* is like? How very right-wing of you......

Would that be "A taste of Armageddon"? I found that one to be particularly meaningful after the second Gulf war (ie, desert storm), which was presented more like an exciting video game than anything else. I found the way footage from the Apache gun camaras was presented disturbing.

Rob

How could someone listen to that all day? Un;ess it was Howard Stern, I suppose.

"The world would be a much simpler place if every one could pick and choose their obligations, but we can't and we shouldn't." Major Charles W. Whittlesey

Well, if that¹s the case, why the commotion?

If it were clean and neat and sanitary (an old Star Trek episode comes

I have read somewhere that wars are started by optimists, needing no reason other than the idea they can win. Others do the bleeding and dying.

Pete.

My boss is the Asst SECDEF for POWs and Missing Persons. He received a copy of the tape and he asked me to watch it with him on Thursday. I've seen my share of death by various means over the years buy I found this one particularly hard to watch. I can tell you that no one in the room asked to see it a second time.

As I said in a previous post, I am puzzled at the fact that these five "brave fighters for Islam" would have to cover their faces with bags. If they were truly committed, were looking forward to martyrdom for their cause, and were not afraid to die, why did they hide their identity.

If they truly believed they were under the protection of Allah in their cause, why were they so frightened that they five of them (armed with knives as they were) had to bind and shackle their victim to make sure there was absolutely no risk to them as they carried out their cold-blooded slaughter without allowing the victim at least the slightest opportunity to resist them?

It is because they are hypocrites who do what they do in the name of religion but are in fact cowardly vermin seeking to fulfill their own blood-lust. I have nothing but utter contempt for these subhuman thugs and, as I also said earlier, I show they the soles of both my feet.

"The world would be a much simpler place if every one could pick and choose their obligations, but we can't and we shouldn't." Major Charles W. Whittlesey

Not being an avid "Trekkie" I don't remember the name of the episode. It was the one where the two worlds fought a super-clean war with computers and those identified as killed reported to a disintegration chamber to be neatly listed as killed. The whole thing was so sanitary and pleasant that there was no reason for the two worlds to end it or to not engage in it.

I'm not sure you got the point of my earlier post. The gun camera film was upsetting. But it was reality. The reality is that war is brutal and bloody and people die in it. It's supposed to be unpleasant in order to make people think about it before initiating one and to meet their objectives and end it as swiftly as possible.

That said; don't confuse my comment as an indictment of the war against Iraq; it is not! Saddam had to go. It's pretty damn sure he wasn't going to go of his own volition. The people of Iraq are better off for the war and its outcome. And don't cite the images and interviews shown on the nightly news, taken from carefully-chosen video clips shown on the network news or those dog-breath terrorists who attempt to perpetuate the instability for their own gain. I'm talking about the common Iraqi citizen who goes about his or her business every day. They are happy that we went in there and removed Saddam and his band of thugs and butchers.

"The world would be a much simpler place if every one could pick and choose their obligations, but we can't and we shouldn't." Major Charles W. Whittlesey

A variation of a line from an old song: The worst of men must and the best of men must die."

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

That should have read:

Sorry!

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

Great- Osama bin Laden or Reverend Billy Bob.

It was a local talk radio show, and I think it was probably the best solution to getting the attention of the public without actually forcing the visuals into our livingrooms - we spend way too much time in this country trying to "forget and move on", IMO...some things we should have to face up to and be reminded of...like the "Why We Fight" reels shown in the theaters during the WWII years. I wonder just were our collective resolve is sometimes...

The world is NOT a safe, secure place, and this is the sort of thing that happens when we hide out and try to convince ourselves otherwise. Tragic, yes. But even more tragic not to step up and attempt to do something about it.