Feature Manager Madness

Don't know for sure, but my guess would be that it was ALSO used for something else. Just a guess, though.

WT

I can pretty much guarantee that would be some kind of feature manager folder bug. Before you try to fix it save the part & send it along with the screen shot to your VAR to have them send to solidworks for them to generate an SPR. Then try to fix it -- possibly delete the folder & recreate? possibly edit definition & rebuild? possibly delete the feature & reextrude the cut? But either way what you have there is not supposed to happen so make sure that it gets sent to SOlidworks as it may be the seed of a larger problem noone else has found yet. That looks scary.

good luck.

Steve Tietz

Thanks for the reply... but I didn't want to here that! The sketch and feature are "parents" of MANY other features. Deleteing it would NOT be an option. I'll try to delete the folder but.. I have tried editing the sketch, the feature, reordering.... nothing changes.

This is one of the most complicated parts I have modled. I'm about 60% complete and there are about 650 features so far.

SW2004 SP0.0

Which feature is it (extrude, cut extrude, pattern)?

Corey

This looks like a problem. There is no time when a cut extrude feature should not have a sketch indented under it.

Did you use "profiles" to set up the cut? That would be one way that the sketch might be listed in several places, but it still should be listed under the cut feature.

The first thing I would do is make sure you have a back up of the file, then I would try stuff from this list:

hit ctrl-Q, easiest and most likely to fix stuff or bring the error to the surface file, reload RMB, list "parent/child" relations RMB "edit sketch" RMB "edit feature" roll back suppress the feature save, close, reopen

matt

"Jacob Filek" wrote in news:O1WNb.1179$ snipped-for-privacy@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:

It's a Cut-Extrude

matt: I did not use "profiles" or Contour Select. Sketch214 is use to create Cut-Extrude94 period... I haven't experienced any instability with this part as of yet. BTW the part has no configurations and no external references.

One other odd thing is that while editing the sketch the Cut-Extrude is still visible! One could assume that the Cut-Extrude is created Before the Sketch! Wouldn't this be impossible a Child existing BEFORE it's Parent!!!

Mabey I've got caught in some sort of time worm hole thingy!

Thanks but I'm waiting for SP2.1? I have shut down the computer...no luck It's time I contact the VAR :(...

"Jacob Filek" wrote in news:r6YNb.2263$ snipped-for-privacy@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:

That can happen if you have the "move/size features" turned on, but it shouldn't cause the funky order thing.

Did you try deleting the folder? After Philippe's comments, that could be a culprit.

Deleting the folder did not change anything!

Yeah, I've seen it before. If you can save it and have it still show this behavior, definitely worth sending.

When I first saw this it reminded me of some interesting quirks with shared sketches and rollback or reorganizing that sketch or it's "step" children (that is, sketch features below the earlier sketch, especially sketches in composite curves).

Maybe we need "Bastard" sketches and features!

Otherwise, you have witnessed the "immaculate conception" feature!?

.. 8^)

Jacob Filek wrote:

I've had this happen when I hit "Esc" to interrupt the rebuild and while in roll-back mode. A CTRL-Q always fixed it for me though. Turn on "Verification on rebuild" then CTRL-Q.

Mike Wilson

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offers free utilities that let you represent all features parent/child relations as graphs. Look at for an example The tools are not (yet) easy to install & use...

Very cool. I managed to get it going (I think). I could get it to generate .png and .svg on a very simple part. Unfortunately, at some stage it gets confused by my feature names. Strangely, on some parts, it accepts the name "Front (1)" and on another it doesn't. I can send the parts I tested on if you're interested.

Sure! It's brand new stuff... I suspect come chars to be forbidden either in XML or in GraphViz.