Forging

Feb 27, 2004 10 Replies

Hello all:



I need to create the model of a forging and then take that forging and do all the machining. Both have separate part numbers and I need to keep it that way.



How do I start the machining drawing? I want this model to be updated when the forging is revised.



Thank you for all your help.


I haven't used this in a production environemnt, but how about:

1) Model the forging as forgedpart.sldprt 2) Insert the forging part into an assembly, machining.sldasm. Do assembly cut features to represent the machining operations. 3) If your protocol allows, throw machining.sldasm into machinedpart.slddrw. That should keep everything linked to changes in the forging or the machining steps. 4) If you need a .sldprt, try one of the methods of saving an assembly as a part file.

Hope this helps,

-Denny Trimble

Create a couple of configurations of your part :- Config one - part as forged config two - part as machined. This config unsupresses the additional machining cuts/holes'etc. required.

Merry :-)

Create a model of the forging. Create a new part and insert the forging part in the new part. Then you will have separate but linked parts which will help if you are using PDMWorks.

Otherwise, create a configuration in a single part for the forging, machined part, etc. Then there will be a single part and the part number will have to be carried in the configuration name.

Which way you go depends largely on how you manage your documentation. It sounds like the first method is for you.

I did it wrote:

I would use this method. We save all our parts as their individual part numbers. This way you can know exactly where each part can be found if changes need to be made.

My 2¢ Corey

Insert the forging as a base part using insert part from the insert drop down menu. You can then do your machining ops and any updates you perform on the base forging will also update any that uses that part as an inserted feature.

If they are separate part numbers this makes it even easier in my eyes.

First model the casting. save it with it's part number.

Second start a new part and insert the casting as a derived part.

Thirdly model all your machining processes to the derived part and save as the machined part number.

Ken

Sounds like what you want to do is create your part for the forged part and then create a derived configuration for the machined part. That way any changes to the forged part will migrate to the machined part.

Crate a new part,then menu: insert -> part

A tip I might add is to also have an assembly with these two parts in it so when you update the forging open the assem before you edit the machined part. I find that inserted parts dont allways update proerly otherwise, but this may just be an error on my part and I only have a few months under my belt as well.

Just "forge" ahead till you find a solution :) HAHAHAHAHA

-=BAHR=-

Just a suggestion re workflow: You might be better to create the machined part FIRST, then use the Insert technique to add the necessary material to represent the forged blank. This way the FINISHED part 'drives' the shape of the forging - a more logical workflow from a design perspective, and you can be certain that the finished part is 'achievable' (ie that the correct machining and trimming allowances have been added etc.)

Rick.

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