U.P. move shocks model railroaders - Omaha World-Herald

No, I think that what Kato is doing will be the model: charge more for UP licensed product. See their add on the inside back cover of the January 2004 Model Railroader. The UP, WP, and DRGW cost $5. More than Santa Fe. If we modelers buy the stuff anyway, the licensing fee will stick; maybe other railroads will follow suit and everything goes up 3%.

Ed.

in article snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com, Jon Miller at snipped-for-privacy@inow.com wrote on 12/28/03 6:28 PM:

No, just remove the ticket booth and you'll be fine.

Jay CNS&M North Shore Line - "First and fastest"

You can bet if the fee goes away nobody is going to be refunding you the $5. And it might be problematical for a discount dealer to cut the price by another $5 because he's already paid Kato, et.al. that extra $5.

Kennedy

Hmmm - maybe I'll put Lotus badges and stering wheel on my Miata . . .

So how do they show that? Reminds me of a military base near me which has a sign at the entrance: "Those over 18 must show ID." So do I come up and claim I'm under 18? Gene ABV61-1043.001.HCB

Well I once saw a Fiat spider which some hunchbrain had put a Scuderia Ferrai cavellino sticker on the front fenders.

While obviously not in the same class as a Ferrari, a Fiat spider is a fine car deserving of respect for what it is.

The poser didn't deserve to own it.

You can put the Lotus badge on Isuzu Impulse, at least Lotus tuned the suspension on it.

Eric

Steve Caple wrote:

"Hmmm - maybe I'll put Lotus badges and stering wheel on my Miata . . ."

I gather it wasn't a Dino?

My reference was to Mazda copying the general look of the Elan. I almost bought one - instead committed myself to learning to love oil leaks from an Alfa.

PS - seen the commercial running lately - can't remember what for, but not cars - where the guy drives his Alfa GTV into his office? Now that was a tasty car that still looks good. I once saw a convertible version of one going across the bridge in SF - didn't know they ever made one, but it sure looked nice.

Salvé "MrRathburne" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com...

Harley Davidson copywrighted motor noise....

Beowulf

No, they did not.

They *tried* to get trademark protection for the sound of their motors, but if I recall correctly they dropped that attempt several years ago.

Yes, they did get the protection, but H-D later dropped the request. The US Patent and Trademark Office approved their 1994 application to trademark the sound of their V-Twin motor, but the ensuing litigation delays and expenses over the next six years (presumably from competitors who were trying to copy the sound and have the approval overturned) caused H-D to drop the issue without resolution. Even though the US Patent and Trademark Office agreed with H-D's position, the motorcycle maker decided that the amount of competition from knock-off soundalike motors wasn't enough to justify the monetary expense of following through with the application.

Incidentally, H-D's efforts were not the first time a company had trademarked a sound. In the 1950's GE trademarked the notes G, E, and C as their characteristic "chime" sound...

salvé "Mark Mathu" skrev i meddelandet news:XDAIb.26596$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...

My appologies :) but even so.... Beowulf

I kinda remembered this. As I recall at the time, the end result was that they were trying to keep the competition from going to a V-twin motor, which is how it got that kind of sound. At the time, your bike choices were the Harleys, or Japanese Superbikes like the Kawasaki KZ1000 (my buddy had one, what a rocket). But, the V-twin sound was a big seller, and the Japanese companies started to go towards the V-twin vs the Inline-4s....

Or something like that. :D

Kennedy

Harley owned the flat tracks with the V-twin motor, I was told. When Honda started making a V-twin Harley lost those races also. Not sure how true that whole story is but it was at the time Harley didn't want anyone else making V-twin motors.

Salvé "Jon Miller" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com...

I doubt that part of the story is true, Britain has/had been making v twins and v fours and sixews since the birth of the motorcycle, as well as inventing the boxer and flying brick style motors, I believe it was more to do with the sound of the HD engine that the japanese were trying to emulate, whilst using rather different technology, I rather like HD's but then I like the Triumph model H...... Beowulf

Harley D. owned the flat tracks in the US V twin flathead category where 750cc flat heads raced against 500cc OHV bikes. It was a racing class peculiar to the US.

Regards, Greg.P.

Salvé "Gregory Procter" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@ihug.co.nz...

HD had obviously seen what happened when the Japanese second wave bikes hit the UK....the end of the British motorcycle industry and took what steps it deemed necessary, its recent steps are somewhat better.. but seems to be pricing itself out of the market.. Beowulf

The Harleys I've seen at the dealers are still iron age behemoths, unsuited for the local road conditions.

Regards, Greg.P.

Salvé

Dear Greg, Here in Sweden they are quite popular despit some of them costing over $25000 for that price I would rather have a Brough superior ss100. Beowulf

They're popular enough here to have outlets in the main cities, but as they're straight road machines they're only good for posers in the cities where a Vespa would be a better buy.

Greg.P.