We've been clearing an old warehouse recently and have unearthed the
following brand new BSA stationary industrial engines. Yes, they may be
over 40 years old but they have never had oil or fuel in them and have
certainly never been used.
Models as follows:
MOD 90 (87cc)
Offer are invited for individual engines or the whole lot. Viewings by
I phoned Davenports. The engines are in Shrewsbury and they are expecting
about £100 each. The best person to ask for is Gordon Davenport. Viewing
is by arrangement.
Is £100 reasonable? I suppose the unused status is rare these days.
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Ah. Thanks for that John, very useful to know.
For about a hundred quid, I could get a brand new Honda stationary engine of
If one wanted a cheap genny, decent 1000w Chinese-built ones are around for
I must say I think that is a very hopeful toe in the water by Davenports for
an engine that has no warranty, no spares back up and no kudos either! Too
expensive, in my most humble opinion - I'd have thought forty quid was about
All politicians are like nappies . . . . .
You need to change them regularly - and for the same reason.
Probably with VAT to be added, but I don't think that's a bad price
actually, for a genuine 'vintage' engine. After all, Lister D's go for
£130+ and they are all secondhand.
I haven't got a use for one, in fact the one I had (220cc IIRC) I
dontaed to eric Brain a year or so ago, but I'd have one at that price
if I was in the market. They do have a certain rarity value compared
with the Petter A1's etc.
Peter A Forbes
Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK
It's true that Lister D's sometimes make £130 odd on e-bay - if they are on
a trolley and going. It is also true that manky ones, falling over in the
rain at a farm sale can be picked up (only figuratively speaking!) for a
couple of grubby tenners.
A nice Petter A1 fettled up with a lick of paint and on a steering trolley
might make a similar figure - although, that said, there's on up there now
in its last fifteen minutes for under fifty quid, so what do I know?
But Lister D's were in production for forty years and "old school". Petter
A1's are from the same mould, heavy, long-lasting and entry level for the
new enthusiast or air cooled nuts like me. You see both in the line up at
rallies all the time. And BSA's? A BSA air cooled, die-cast engine is not
old enough in spirit or design to be desirable and not well enough thought
of to be sought after as a work horse. It's the sort of thing you give away
to someone who might use it, but just as likely it will sit in his garage
for years too!
These new old stock engines have, as I said, no back up on warranty, spares
or manuals and no particular pedigree. Thanks but no thanks ;o))
You really don't like my choice in engines do you Kim. I have 2 BSAs now
having bought my second one last summer.
There was a manual on the Internal Fire web site before Paul withdrew them.
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:03:14 -0000, Kim Siddorn wrote:
But surely that applies to the ancient Listers and Petters as well but
these new old stock have the edge in being just that, new. So one
would hope that after a bit of TLC to remove any coagulated grease or
oil after 40 years of storage and care in use they would actually
perform pretty well.
I know SFA about them but if one had 6hp output at a sensible RPM for
an alternator it could be a decent start to a genset. Mind I wouldn't
want to paying £100 for it...
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
It further occurs to me that these engines probably have a number of ball
races inside them. I wonder how they have fared with the balls in point
contact with the same part of inner and outer race, undisturbed for forty
odd years and - according to the vendor - never had oil in them.
I'd love to look inside one just for the sake of interest, but I think I'll
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:47:23 -0000, Kim Siddorn wrote:
Does ball bearing steel "creep"? I take the "never had oil in them" to
mean that they have never been filled with oil and turned over let
alone started. There will be the assembly oil/grease of course.
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
Well, that certainly stirred up rather more interest that I was
Yes, the engines are in Shrewsbury, the full address and contact details
are in the signature to this message. Viewings are by appointment
because we need to make sure that our BSA expert, Gordon Davenport, is
available as no-one else here will know enough about these engines to
offer any sensible assistance.
The figure of £100 arose because someone contacted us prior to posting
the original message and we made a stab in the dark about what they
might be worth. They still have first refusal on the ones they were
interested in. We have no fixed prices, though naturally we will try to
get the best price we can. They will go for whatever someone is willing
to pay for them. In the end, I'd far rather they go to a collector than
the scrap heap. Incidentally, we have about 20 units in total.
We will need to charge VAT as I doubt we would be able to convince the
VAT-man that this is a private sale. However, this should not make any
difference to buyers. A buyer will decide what he/she is prepared to
pay in total; it's our responsibility to give the VAT-man his
In view of the interest Gordon will be sorting and cataloguing over the
Christmas break and I should be able to post more detailed information
in the New Year. But please feel free to get in touch beforehand and we
will try our best to answer any questions.
Regards and Merry Christmas,
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