Making a trolley

For something this heavy, you need 2 axles. A single will be highly unstable when running and moving it, especially off road. An underslung trolley would help if you really go this route. This is where the axle is cranked down to lower the load below the centre of the wheels. The bigger the wheels the better. A double axle is far preferable. The design depends on how often you intend to move it. There are turntables available but most folks seem to make their own. On the basis that a look see is better than lots of words. I suggest you tour the engine line up at your next show.

John

Have a look at the trolley we made for the Ruston 1ZHR:

If you troll through the series of pictures and pages you'll see the other parts as well as the frame.

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

I would definitely agree that anything of any weight needs at least 2 axles to be reasonably safe to move. I would reccomend not using rubber tyred wheels as iron rims make rolling a heavy object by hand much easier. I found this out the hard way when I made a trolley to carry our 350amp Lincoln bullet welder, which weighs just barely under a ton. The homemade trolley had solid rubber tyres on industrial cast iron rims, rated at 1250Kg each. The problem being that the rubber compressed very slightly under the weight of the welder to give the effect of a flat spot, making it impossible to move on a concrete floor. In fact on that trolley it only moved once, towed by a forklift, to have a genuine Lincoln one that we found in a breakers yard fitted. It's now on big roller-bearing'd steel wheels and can be easily moved with one hand. Or two if you're on softer going...

I use blanking plates for large diameter pipe fittings to make turntable discs - obtain them from Parker tools.

I agreee that two axles are necessary, but pers>Gents,

John Ambler Sussex, UK Return E-mails to snipped-for-privacy@skiprat.net

I have long thought that a scrap front wheel hub and stub axle would make an excellent turntable, complete with taper roller bearing.

Regards,

Kim Siddorn

Bit deep for a trolley, but the principle is good.

We have laser-cut 8mm blanks for turntables, I think we have some 6" or thereabouts.

Our Ruston trolley has two 14" discs with a sheet of woven teflon between them.

Pivot pin is a 30mm bolt....

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

That's almost the same size as an artic 5th wheel pin. Good British over-engineering lives on.

John

BTW, I'm as guilty as anyone.

I take it that grease is not the prefered method these days then? The Ruston trolley pics are great and hopefully I will be able to get some time soon so that I can finally get it mobile.

If I could work out a way of seperating the stub axles out of grotty M Minor king pins I could mount the whole lot on good old mini wheels, then loading won't be an issue. BTW what's the material of stub axles? Will I be able to weld them?

(I have noticed a good 4 wheeled trolley on ebay, so if it stays at it's current price, I'll not have to do any of this, just get over to Brum to pick it up!)

Andy G

I take it that grease is not the prefered method these days then? The Ruston trolley pics are great and hopefully I will be able to get some time soon so that I can finally get it mobile.

If I could work out a way of seperating the stub axles out of grotty M Minor king pins I could mount the whole lot on good old mini wheels, then loading won't be an issue. BTW what's the material of stub axles? Will I be able to weld them?

(I have noticed a good 4 wheeled trolley on ebay, so if it stays at it's current price, I'll not have to do any of this, just get over to Brum to pick it up!)

Andy G

Teflon disc, see my other post.

Indespension used to do the stub for mini hubs, probably still available.

Ours were turned from 40mm square MS on the Raglan at work.

Way to go!

Peter

-- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK snipped-for-privacy@easynet.co.uk

I have used some of Peter's blanks to make turn tables and with a piece of Nylotron in between to aid lubrication they work well.