Agree with Kevin, so Rob please name names !
Anon
Agree with Kevin, so Rob please name names !
Anon
Which bit John, above is quote from Bachmanns site and I may find the bit where someone said Bachmann announced early cos .....
How would Bachmann have
Would they be allowed to do that, suspect competition laws etc would bounce in here.
You think hornby should have strict secrecy to avoid what might be called dirty tricks by Bachmann - i would have thought Bachmann were above such things !
Cheers, Simon
"simon" wrote
Why would you think that? I don't think any manufacturer in any field is 'whiter than white'.
John.
"Kevin" wrote
If you're accusing me, then you're far from the mark. I'd be stupid to hate Hornby, because I sell their product in large quantities. However, should that mean that I shouldn't be critical of them?
Would you prefer me to gloss over their inadequacies and give glowing reports on everything they produce? If you think so, then you're backing a loser, I'll criticise any of my suppliers if they get things wrong, or if they make stupid or illogical decisions.
I quit selling Dapol ready-to-run models some years ago because their quality dropped to a level which I considered to be totally unsatisfactory, and I've yet to be convinced they've improved to the point where I would consider reversing that decision.
If I criticise one manufacturer more than another have you thought it's because they get things wrong more often?
John.
Wouldnt put you in the hate hornby catagory John, you may be highly critical but always give reasons that allow for debate. Plus there was one time you favoured one of their products over a competitors - still got that response on the wall !
Cheers, Simon
Oh and you can take a joke !
"BH Williams" wrote in news:ep7l8s$clj$1$ snipped-for-privacy@news.demon.co.uk:
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Not that I have a lot of money for new stock but assuming they actually produce the G2a I'd buy at least 2 without waiting to even consider my bank balance or even SHMBOs dissaproving glares.
Ahem!!! I don't think you have to look VERY far, Simon!!
ROB
"simon" wrote
Very much doubt it would be an issue. There's nothing in the regulations which prohibit co-operation, providing there's no collusion to be non-competitive.
John.
Suprises me you should say that, I try to give an opinion based on personal experience and dont pretend anything else. Must admit though, I do acknowledge that Hornby PLC dont exist just to provide me with products and that they are a quoted company that have a duty to make a profit for their shareholders. Did contribute to the hornby DCC discussion as was very interested in its possible limitations but there was a dearth of facts to back up nearly all the negative claims made about it. An awful lot of comments could be summarised as 'its crap, buy . When asked why spend extra xx pounds to get funcionality not wanted then got replies saying 'its crap buy .....'. Anyway, by all means reply to any posts where I appear to give more credit to them than is due. Cant debate with silence.
Cheers, Simon
Having meetings to avoid direct competition seems close to collusion to me !
Simon
"simon" wrote
Wasn't that how Airbus was conceived?
Hornby and Bachmann are in competition with each other, that doesn't mean they shouldn't avoid duplication.
John.
Admit it takes a legal expert, but having meetings to avoid duplication suggests collusion to carve up the market and avoid direct competition. Competition that could drive down prices. If one decides not to go ahead with a model after another announces (or rumour abounds) thats ok cos not collusion. I know you and me want to avoid duplication cos want diversity, but thats common sense not EU regulations.
Simon
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