Be that as it may a random survey of eBay will show that early nationalisation models consistently fetch less at auction than late nationalisation period, in some cases as little as a third (all other factors being equal). An extreme example would be a Mainline loco with "BRITISH RAILWAYS" on the tender = £10, the exact same loco with late crest = £30.
(kim)
You have a point Kim, Bullied coaches on E-bat B&C £10-13, greenn = £18-28!
From what I have seen the blood & Custard gresleys have been selling, even I have one compbrake but it does not look right in this livery, I will swap it in 2006 when the maroon ones are out!
Simon
"kim" wrote
That must be why Hornby insist on producing the 2P and 4F in that form. No wonder the bloody things don't sell.
The legend 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' was relatively short-lived from its 1948 introduction, and was rapidly replaced by the so-called 'early crest' which along with blood & custard coaches lasted into the 1960s (although both were gradually replaced with the BR coat-of-arms and maroon coaches from 1957 onwards).
To purely link blood & custard coaches with locos bearing the 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' legend is incorrect.
John.
"piemanlarger" wrote
That's a big assumption, although why they are not appearing in 2005 is a mystery.
John.
The message from "John Turner" contains these words:
People just *won't* use photos taken in the period they are modelling.
I have rakes of coaching stock which are mixed maroon/B&C, and a rake of all B&C - but no locos with "BRITISH RAILWAYS", just the "lion and wheel" or "ferret and dartboard". I bought a couple of "teak" Gresley coaches and re-painted them into B&C before they went on the track - does anybody produce Thompson coaches in N gauge? - because I have a photo of a 1957 Summer Saturday train at Rhyl which includes Gresley coaches in B&C.
I didn't, I said it was "an extreme example", in order to make a point. Late BR crest locos invariably fetch more at auction than early BR emblem locos. As to why Hornby and others insist on churning out new models in obscure liveries I can only assume they are aimed at the 'collectors' (pardon my swearing) who insist on buying at least one example of every new model produced. There are very many fewer *layouts* based on early nationalisation period than later period nationalisation so the total market for rolling stock is that much lower. Another reason for persisting with early period liveries might be to provide a breathing space during which the glitches in the first version of any new product can be ironed out before serious volume production commences?
(kim)
"kim" wrote
nationalisation
All interest in steam seems to be in decline to some extent or other with diesels era models appearing to outsell steam outline at the moment. This of course could be the reason why late crest 'kettles' are more popular with more and more people wanting to include diesel models on their layouts. Not that early crest and diesels are incompatible of course.
John.
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